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Post by batmom on Dec 6, 2021 11:49:56 GMT -4
True. Dear John feels like it could have been written for 1995 me.
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cremetangerine82
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“These are the times that try men's souls.” - Thomas Paine
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Post by cremetangerine82 on Dec 6, 2021 14:13:32 GMT -4
I felt like an outcast at my former job, because they worship Taylor Swift like a goddess, and I could not give less of a shit about her music. I will defend the very sexist “she only sings about relationships!”, because every music artist is usually going to talk about love in some capacity, whether falling in love or breaking up, no one gives any grief about the male artists who do the same thing. You're right that a huge percentage of songs written are about relationships. To me, the issue with Taylor is that her songs seem to all be about HER in her relationships. Compare George Harrison writing Something with the focus being how incredible the woman is to Taylor writing a long list of songs about herself. You hit the nail on the head with why I don’t like about how Taylor Swift writes songs about relationships: it is all about her as the wronged party, with no self-examination about how she is a contributor to the relationship’s failure. “Blank Space“ is the closest time that she comes to being honest about her “man-eater“ reputation, but her commentary on the song doesn’t help that she views the song as a fictional exercise. I’ll take Joni Mitchell’s Blue for an album that is self-critical any day over T-Swizzle.
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Post by forever1267 on Jan 24, 2022 21:47:32 GMT -4
I posted this in Blind Items, but didn't get many nibbles. Who is singing about in this one? Taylor Swift's current hit is a duet with Chris Stapleton called I Bet You Think About Me, which is a poor girl / rich boy love song / break up song. I'm not sure how old it is, because she's re-released her album her way? But the lyrics seem to be specific enough someone must have figured out who she is singing. Unless it's Chris Stapleton. Although there isn't much irony in Country Music.
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WestEndGirl
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Post by WestEndGirl on Jan 24, 2022 21:58:47 GMT -4
I posted this in Blind Items, but didn't get many nibbles. Who is singing about in this one? Taylor Swift's current hit is a duet with Chris Stapleton called I Bet You Think About Me, which is a poor girl / rich boy love song / break up song. I'm not sure how old it is, because she's re-released her album her way? But the lyrics seem to be specific enough someone must have figured out who she is singing. Unless it's Chris Stapleton. Although there isn't much irony in Country Music. It’s supposed to be about Jake Gyllenhaal
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Post by forever1267 on Jan 24, 2022 22:21:26 GMT -4
But... But... he's so dreamy!!!!
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cremetangerine82
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Post by cremetangerine82 on Jan 24, 2022 22:41:39 GMT -4
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askye
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Post by askye on Jan 25, 2022 0:44:46 GMT -4
Good for Taylor Swift for speaking up,** and good for Damon Albarn for apologizing.
Whether or not people like Taylor's music, it's undisputed that she plays a huge role in writing her songs. (She also wrote her entire third album, Speak Now, on her own without any co-writers.)
** = And without getting too political, I think Taylor is actually sending a positive message to her young female fans and letting them see that they should not be afraid to speak up when an older man devalues their work/accomplishments.
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Post by Ladybug on Jan 25, 2022 10:23:05 GMT -4
He got called out and had to cover his ass. He said what he said and he meant it. It wasn't clickbait, it was his bullshit. Taylor is actually sending a positive message to her young female fans and letting them see that they should not be afraid to speak up when an older man devalues their work/accomplishments. 100% this. It's also totally shitty that he "called out" Taylor for co-writing (he said "co-writing isn't writing"), then praised Billie Eilish, who co-writes all her songs with her brother. WTF? I think he just wanted to compare an artist that meets his artistic standards with someone he thinks writes pop fluff and isn't "cool" like Blur or Gorillaz. He's a tool. I'm glad she exposed his sexism.
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ahah
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Post by ahah on Jan 25, 2022 11:28:47 GMT -4
His big mistake was that he used Taylor's name. There are absolutely singers out there who will suggest minimal changes to songs written by others in order to get co-writing credits and present themselves as great artists when hey are not. That point is valid. Attaching Taylor to it was a mistake if he doesn't know for a fact that is what she does - and clearly he doesn't know it since he back peddled so quickly.
I'm reluctant to give Taylor credit for speaking up here only because she does he same no matter who criticizes her. When Tina Fey and Amy Poehler cracked mild jokes about her in a monologue she did the same thing. So she doesn't just put older men devaluing her accomplishments in their place ... she jumps on every bit of criticism to further her victim image and get attention. So in this case, I say good for you Taylor! But as a career practice, not so much.
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Post by canuckcutie on Jan 25, 2022 11:35:13 GMT -4
He didn’t really apologize to her though. He claimed his interview was reduced to clickbait. He did diss her songwriting and then when the interviewer gave him an out he doubled down on dissing her songwriting.
He could have said I’m sorry, my comments were completely wrong instead he blamed the interviewer….
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