John Mulaney

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May 17, 2021 12:00:26 GMT -4 @ximena said:

Feb 10, 2006 17:47:02 GMT -4 Ladybug said:

My issue with Olivia Munn is that she made some veiled comments that seemed to be trying to out her former bf Aaron Rogers. I don’t know what’s up with him or what went down in their relationship but it’s his life and his choice.

This sat terribly with me too. He's engaged to Shailene Woodley now and I guess it could be a bearding situation, and she's I think said she's either bisexual or nonbinary in the past, so who knows what the truth is, but it came across really meanspirited, like she was trying to embarrass him or cause him problems in the locker room because she was bitter about their relationship. Not to mention I listened to the interview and she seemed to try to imply that if a guy likes to be the little spoon that makes him gay? Maybe he just likes to be cuddled?

She just seems to pop up all over the place at random, usually in unhealthy relationships. I wouldn't be surprised if this thing with Mulaney is more of a codependency and he ends up regretting divorcing his wife. I think he's a really talented comic and he doesn't look like your stereotypical addict, but he really seems like he needs time away from everything.

Honestly, this is a big reason why she rubs me the wrong way. She seems to have spent most of her life trying to appeal to the "bros" and she thinks like them. Like, I get the feeling that she doesn't have a lot of female friends, spends a lot of effort showing "the boys" that she isn't clingy and whiny like "other girls" and will drink beer and eat hot dogs with them. But that also probably leads to bro-think in a lot of situations, like her comments about a guy wanting to be the little spoon. Like, I can totally imagine her rolling her eyes all, "What, are you gay or something?" if her boyfriend cried in front of her.

Which is another reason why she and Mulvaney seem like an odd match to me. But then again, he's pretty good friends with Pete Davidson, who seems pretty bro-y himself, so maybe Mulvaney is more bro-y than he lets on in his act.

I also found it off-putting that it really feels like she decided to pick on the Fug Girls instead of any other fashion bloggers because they are two women and OM doesn't think women should criticize other women because feminism. Which is not what feminism is about. She also relayed that message in her "essay" where she included a picture of the Fug Girls placed next to her own picture. There was no reason to include a picture of them other than to encourage her fans to comment on their appearance, particularly in comparison to her own. As if she was saying, "Can you believe these two said anything about my appearance? I'm way hotter."

Back to Mulaney - I agree that this feels like a lot of pressure. I think audiences are a little more forgiving when a comedian comes out with a clipboard and makes it clear they are workshopping the material, but there's a lot of eyes on him right now. I know he's said he's been sober for 140 days, but that's really not that long and all this feels like...a lot. Even under the best of circumstances.

[canuckcutie]

I agree that Munn’s thing seems to be trying too hard to be the “cool girl”. Reminds of a quote from Gone Girl about men falling for the cool girl who doesn’t really exist.

I was glad that the internet supported The Fug Girls rather than piling on as Munn seemed to be encouraging.

[Ginger]

May 18, 2007 22:57:48 GMT -4 canuckcutie said:

I agree that Munn’s thing seems to be trying too hard to be the “cool girl”. Reminds of a quote from Gone Girl about men falling for the cool girl who doesn’t really exist.

That's funny because Jezebel (and others) criticized the hiring of Olivia as a correspondent for The Daily Show, citing her complete lack of comedy credentials. They said something about how her comedy chops seemed to consist solely of her ability to put things in her mouth suggestively, which echoes another part of that "cool girl" monologue.

Olivia is one of those celebrities who, when people date her, I know something is wrong with them. Minka Kelly is another one. Trevor Noah has dated both of them, which is how I know there is definitely something wrong with Trevor Noah, regardless of how together he might otherwise seem. (Never.Marry.A.Comedian.)

[Sunnyhorse]

May 17, 2021 21:02:54 GMT -4 Ginger said:

May 18, 2007 22:57:48 GMT -4 canuckcutie said:

I agree that Munn’s thing seems to be trying too hard to be the “cool girl”. Reminds of a quote from Gone Girl about men falling for the cool girl who doesn’t really exist.

That's funny because Jezebel (and others) criticized the hiring of Olivia as a correspondent for The Daily Show, citing her complete lack of comedy credentials. They said something about how her comedy chops seemed to consist solely of her ability to put things in her mouth suggestively, which echoes another part of that "cool girl" monologue.

Olivia is one of those celebrities who, when people date her, I know something is wrong with them. Minka Kelly is another one. Trevor Noah has dated both of them, which is how I know there is definitely something wrong with Trevor Noah, regardless of how together he might otherwise seem. (Never.Marry.A.Comedian.)

Her Attack of the Show! and Daily Show gigs were what made me dislike her (and whoever hired her for TDS) in the first place, and she’s done absolutely nothing since to improve my impression of her. Just seems like a not-talented, other-women-hating fame vulture.

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I've been a fan of Mulaney for a long time going back to when he was doing Girl Scout Cookie commentary on Weekend Update. I'll admit, I look a little side-eye at Anna in her behavior through the divorce.
I think that when they got together, she used her association with his growing stardom very well to promote herself. She grew from a makeup artists to blogger to artist by offering a connection to her celebrity husband and grew her own fanbase.
Now, it seems that she's might be taking advantage of John being the celebrity to make comments and post pictures that make her look like the victim knowing HE is the one with a reputation to manage. It's hard to tell how much we're seeing from her is genuine, and how much may be manipulative.
I'll add the connection to Olivia Munn does not surprise me, and it may not be everything it appears to be. Olivia has had ties to SNL for a long time. One of her very best friends is Ariel Ashe who is Seth Meyers sister-in-law. She's also very close friends with Seth's wife. Ariel is an interior designer, an early in her career worked in set design for SNL. So through the Ashe sisters, Olivia has been around the SNL people for a long time.

[Ginger]

I think Anna is a victim and I feel very badly for her. She's now following on instagram the stripper who said Mulaney was drunk and passed her his number looking to hookup while he was married. My guess is Anna wants to DM her to verify the story. (The woman said she still has his phone #, so that should be easy to verify.) And this stripper only offered the information in response to the rumor that Mulaney was engaging in that behavior routinely. How awful that Anna is finding out this information about her husband on the internet just like the rest of us.

And now the NY Post ran a story about how Anna was getting in-patient psychiatric treatment at the same time Mulaney was in rehab - she was outed by another patient in her group therapy. It's a terrible violation of privacy for someone who is suffering and who is basically a private person. Her fanbase is miniscule. She's only famous because she provided her husband with a lot of great comedy material, and now because he's divorcing her.

Mulaney built a large part of his successful comedy persona around being the guy who adores and respects his wife, and now much of that seems dubious. He benefited far more from the marriage than she did, especially now in the position she's been left in.

[canuckcutie]

There was a dubious sighting on Deux Moi - someone claimed to have overheard a conversation stating that Anna had moved on so she was clearly going to be just fiiiine with whatever was happening with John & Olivia. Screamed a plant to me from either John or Olivia’s camps to me.

I feel awful for Anna. John too benefited from their marriage - he used it extensively in his act! To find out infidelity etc via the media is really shitty. He’s clearly not the person he portrayed himself to be. And to have someone out her for seeking therapy is a true low.

I figure the John & Olivia relationship will implode at some point. I’m sure Olivia will walk away unscathed but I suspect John will not.

[seat6]

I thought this was an interesting take:

The Personal, Private, and Parasocial of John Mulaney

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John isn't the person that he portrayed himself to be. But I don't think Anna is either. There's no reason at all for her to take the public steps she has in all of this other to embarrass him. She's certainly not the first divorcing person to be angry and find ways to get revenge. But she knows right now that people are watching carefully for clues, and she's feeding that curiosity. To me, that makes them both equal in the failings of their marriage.

[Mutagen]

May 19, 2021 10:01:13 GMT -4 ahah said:

John isn't the person that he portrayed himself to be. But I don't think Anna is either. There's no reason at all for her to take the public steps she has in all of this other to embarrass him. She's certainly not the first divorcing person to be angry and find ways to get revenge. But she knows right now that people are watching carefully for clues, and she's feeding that curiosity. To me, that makes them both equal in the failings of their marriage.

Before the news about Olivia Munn came out, some of John's fans were attacking Anna because they blamed her for his relapse, or because they assumed she abandoned him when he relapsed. Why shouldn't she get her side of the story out there? I'm not saying she needs to go full scorched earth (and it so far looks like she hasn't), but I don't think she's obligated to spare him embarrassment in the process of defending herself.