dragonflie
Sloane Ranger
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Mar 14, 2005 2:10:14 GMT -4
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Post by dragonflie on Oct 25, 2021 14:17:27 GMT -4
Well since most people are not in the public eye, of course the publicity effort piece of this is not going to be common. As for the baby - the stress that puts on a couple that is not in a strong place is going to have a toll - whether it becomes official before or after the baby is born. Some will ignore it for the sake of the baby. But I don't think the strain of a baby coming into a relationship that is not well established is all that uncommon. It's his documented and personal admissions of continuous substance issues, coupled with the fact he JUST got out of rehab. Coupled with him choosing to - right after leaving rehab- leave his wife, start a new relationship AND have a baby. None of those things are stable life choices when you factor in the timing. Stability is not the same thing as common. It's not uncommon to make questionable choices. But questioning how stable the man is: well- looking at his choices and actions over the past year- I think there's good evidence he's not the most stable person.
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Post by Sunnyhorse on Oct 26, 2021 11:03:47 GMT -4
Unless things have changed, and I don't think they have, people in recovery are encouraged to not start relationships in the first year or so, no?
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Post by famvir on Oct 26, 2021 11:36:31 GMT -4
Olivia Munn is 41. If she wanted to be a mom, she is rolling the dice to even be able to get pregnant in her 40’s. I’m happy for her that this worked out, and I wish her an uneventful pregnancy and healthy child.
I think she will be a fierce and loving parent.
John is a horrible choice as a partner. And questionable as a co-parent, but Olivia really doesn’t need him to co-parent, and I doubt she really expected him be around long as a partner.
So I think the baby will be fine. Maybe John will pull it together to help parent the child, but Olivia has the resources, support, and ability to go it alone.
But John has really dug a hole. The veneer of sweet smart Catholic man/child in the big city is totally blown. I like John. I discovered him late, but loved the Bodega SNL production numbers. I don’t want to lose him.
I want him to get better. And I want him to go away and work on himself.
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Post by kostgard on Oct 26, 2021 12:12:17 GMT -4
But John has really dug a hole. The veneer of sweet smart Catholic man/child in the big city is totally blown. I like John. I discovered him late, but loved the Bodega SNL production numbers. I don’t want to lose him. I want him to get better. And I want him to go away and work on himself. Yeah, not at all surprised that the relationship with Munn is rumored to have already fizzled. Just another sign he’s making all the wrong decisions. I had the same thought when I heard he was already working on material and planning on a tour. While I’m sure working might help him stay focused, it feels like maybe he indulged in a lot of his bad behavior on the road, and it feels like maybe not a good idea to head out so quickly (unless he has a sober companion or someone like that to help him). I think about how Bo Burnham started having anxiety attacks on stage, so he stopped performing live while he worked to get his anxiety under control. For around five years. He worked on other things, but not the stuff that triggered his panic attacks. I get that addiction is a different animal than anxiety, but it seems like Mulaney needs to do something similar. As others have noted, it’s hard to tell if a comedian’s jokes reflect what he’s really thinking, but his “they hate my baby” joke feels like he’s just expressing bitterness over some of the public reaction rather than examining how his own choices led him here. And while I know Seth Meyers is trying to help his friend, I kinda wish he wouldn’t support his apology tour and instead tell him, “Maybe you should step back for a while?”
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Post by Ginger on Oct 26, 2021 12:25:43 GMT -4
Paste Magazine has a good review of his current show and the transitional period he's in with his onstage persona. I don't think he's going to stop being tabloid fodder for a while. Even if he gets the inevitable breakup with the mother of his child out of the way soon, what then? Who knows where he stands in terms of cleaning up his problematic sexual behavior. When he got sober the first time, he said he went into a period of two years of being completely celibate and not dating at all. He wasn't told to do that by a rehab counselor as he got sober without rehab - he just instinctively knew it was what he needed to do. If he turns in that direction this time, that would be a promising change of direction. But this notion that the arrival of a baby will be a big turning point for him that will mark his transition into a new, peaceful and healthy life continues to be incredibly troublesome. Poor baby needs to be born so everybody (including him) can get past the idea that arrival of messiah baby is going to straighten out his life for him. It's not going to happen. While I’m sure working might help him stay focused, it feels like maybe he indulged in a lot of his bad behavior on the road, and it feels like maybe not a good idea to head out so quickly (unless he has a sober companion or someone like that to help him). He said (onstage) that he had 3 sober companions/chaperones with him when he recently performed in Vegas. That's good, but also a testament to how shaky his sobriety is right now. He might truly feel that he does the money from touring (and fulfilling his Netflix contract for a third special). In addition to going through a divorce and having a new baby to support, he has said he was spending $7,000 a day on drugs for a long time, which is a lot of money to have flushed down the drain.
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Post by seat6 on Oct 27, 2021 14:45:59 GMT -4
Is a sober companion someone who is also in recovery or someone who has never had any problems with substance abuse and is willing to abstain?
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lae
Lady in Waiting
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Dec 26, 2019 22:39:52 GMT -4
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Post by lae on Oct 27, 2021 15:09:06 GMT -4
$7,000 a day on drugs?! What kind of drugs and how much in quantity that won’t kill you cost that much? Unless he’s also supplying a lot of other people with drugs as well. I mean, it’s Hollywood so I believe it, but damn.
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Post by kostgard on Oct 27, 2021 15:40:32 GMT -4
Is a sober companion someone who is also in recovery or someone who has never had any problems with substance abuse and is willing to abstain? I think it depends. I think many are people who have successfully been in recovery for several years. But they can also be a professional like a nurse or social worker.
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Post by scarlet on Dec 17, 2021 14:23:22 GMT -4
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Post by Ginger on Dec 17, 2021 14:34:54 GMT -4
So you all don't have to, I just plugged that date into a Reverse Conception Calendar app. If baby was born on time, conception was ~March 3. Basically, as expected, it happened the minute Mulaney was released from rehab.
And, as expected, they kept the birth as secret as long as possible since they are "private" (but actually since they were hoping the exact date would never get out and the public would not consult the Official Mulaney Timeline to see how it fit in).
Anyway, good luck to the little boy.
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