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Post by tiggertoo on May 25, 2021 17:22:54 GMT -4
Mulaney!! The world is right again. I just watched an appearance he made on SNL weekend update with his pal, Pete Davidson. He was being the straight laced sober example to Pete. John has been been showing him how to live a sober, domestic life. How times have changed! I think it was after Pete’s suicide ‘threat’. Now Pete seems to be doing really well. I’m sure he’s there for his friend. youtu.be/X5TEsdb918c
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Post by magazinewhore on May 25, 2021 19:07:06 GMT -4
I love that appearance. My husband and I reference it whenever The Mule is on.
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Post by ahah on May 28, 2021 16:23:30 GMT -4
There are exceptions to the statement, no doubt. But in most divorces, it took two people for the marriage to fail. Totally okay with people disagreeing - but that's my experience. Completely disagree with this. For example, if someone cheats, they're the one breaking the marriage. The person who was cheated on doesn't have to carry the weight of repairing the relationsip if they don't want to, or if the cheater isn't putting in the effort to make it work. If one person isn't doing the work in the relationship, they're the one making it fail. To expect the other partner to carry their load, and shoulder the responsibility for their failure, is wrong. If one person checks out, they've made the marriage fail. Not much the other person can do, beyond put on a show for the outside world that things are fine. And what's the point of that? Bringing this on topic, I have no idea about either of these people, but it seems like from what I'm reading that John cheated. No one is required to "fix" a relationship with a cheater. If you're cheated on and want to walk, because the disrespect is not something you want to live with, then do it. Same for a drug user. If you don't want to live with that, where you are always second tier to the habit, there is no requirement that you have to suck it up and stay and "fix" them. Society wants to say you have to, but really, it's your life, and you don't have to live a crappy one because someone else is making bad choices that are affecting you. So if that's why his wife is done, power to her. There are instances where the cheater is not getting something in the relationship and goes looking for it elsewhere. Woman has a husband who works too many hours, spends his down time golfing with friends, and gives little or any time with her. So she finds an outlet for companionship with a male coworker and next thing you know, cheating. Woman emasculates her husband putting down everything he does for her. He feels like crap, meets a woman who makes him feel good, and cheating happens. These are the kinds of things that happen when I say it takes two to fail - with exceptions. But that loses sight of my original point which was that I’m not impressed with Anna’s public statements and expressions. She’s within her right to make them. I’m within mine to not be impressed with them.
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Post by Gigiree on May 29, 2021 10:57:27 GMT -4
There are instances where the cheater is not getting something in the relationship and goes looking for it elsewhere. Woman has a husband who works too many hours, spends his down time golfing with friends, and gives little or any time with her. So she finds an outlet for companionship with a male coworker and next thing you know, cheating. Woman emasculates her husband putting down everything he does for her. He feels like crap, meets a woman who makes him feel good, and cheating happens. These are the kinds of things that happen when I say it takes two to fail - with exceptions. But that loses sight of my original point which was that I’m not impressed with Anna’s public statements and expressions. She’s within her right to make them. I’m within mine to not be impressed with them. If one is not getting what s/he needs from the relationship, then one either talks to their partner and tries to work it out, either by agreeing to counseling to work on their problems, agreeing to an open relationship, etc., or they agree to end the relationship. Cheating is nothing but pure cowardice on the part of the cheater, who chose dishonesty and subterfuge instead of communication.
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Post by ahah on May 29, 2021 11:06:15 GMT -4
There are instances where the cheater is not getting something in the relationship and goes looking for it elsewhere. Woman has a husband who works too many hours, spends his down time golfing with friends, and gives little or any time with her. So she finds an outlet for companionship with a male coworker and next thing you know, cheating. Woman emasculates her husband putting down everything he does for her. He feels like crap, meets a woman who makes him feel good, and cheating happens. These are the kinds of things that happen when I say it takes two to fail - with exceptions. But that loses sight of my original point which was that I’m not impressed with Anna’s public statements and expressions. She’s within her right to make them. I’m within mine to not be impressed with them. If one is not getting what s/he needs from the relationship, then one either talks to their partner and tries to work it out, either by agreeing to counseling to work on their problems, agreeing to an open relationship, etc., or they agree to end the relationship. Cheating is nothing but pure cowardice on the part of the cheater, who chose dishonesty and subterfuge instead of communication. Agree with you on cheating. I simply said I think there is often a hell of a lot more about it than being horny and cheating. I’ve seen people beg for counseling, beg for change and be rebuffed. Cheating as a solution is wrong. But the other things are wrong two. The degree of wrong may not be the same, but there’s wrong on both parts hence it usually (but not always) takes two to make a marriage fail. The point has been made that John’s addictions are going to create a hardship in their marriage. They dated for many years, and I recall when they talked as if they’d never get married. So Anna was not in a situation where she married a healthy together guy and then he turned into an addict. She knew what she was getting into. Doesn’t make it okay what happened, and doesn’t make it all her fault or make her deserving of it. The whole thing is not black and white with John as all bad and Anna as all good. There are shades of gray.
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Post by canuckcutie on May 29, 2021 21:16:51 GMT -4
So it’s the fault of the cheated upon spouse for not doing more to stop their spouse from straying? That’s like something out of a dated housewife’s handbook. Ladies, if you aren’t wearing lipstick and looking your best with dinner on the table when hubby strolls through the door then you only have yourself to blame if he goes looking for someone who will make herself a doormat to please him!
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Post by sugarhigh on May 29, 2021 21:29:58 GMT -4
Yeah these responses have been some weird, 50s contortions of logic to absolve John Mulaney of something which he’s not even accused of (cheating). At worst, he hurt his wife by falling off the wagon and asking for a divorce. Her big fault is expressing her feelings about it in public. Little woman should have kept her mouth shut I guess?!
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Post by ahah on May 29, 2021 21:52:41 GMT -4
It’s the cheaters fault for cheating. It’s the neglected fault for neglecting. It’s the non-communicators fault for not communicating. A marriage rarely fails for a single reason, even if there is one is listed on the filing. Even in Mulaney marriage, this discussion has listed many reasons - and those are merely what we know from the outside looking in.
If you think that recognizing the complexity of marriage makes me a relic of the 1950s, that’s fine. As I said before, I see it as acknowledging the gray.
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Post by MrsOldManBalls on May 30, 2021 7:24:59 GMT -4
Maybe we should move on? John has..... BAZINGA!!! ( too soon?)
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Post by scarlet on May 30, 2021 11:45:45 GMT -4
Here's a change of topic: someone in the comedy "community" in NYC posted a rumor that Olivia is pregnant. Yikes!
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