Courtney Love

[divasahm]

I was living in Dallas when grunge was big, and I got to the point where I couldn't listen to any of the pop/rock radio stations because I was already so depressed (living in a very status-conscious, money-chasing city with no friends and a husband who traveled a lot for business) that the latest music made me nearly suicidal. Only in the last few years have I been able to go back and really listen to all that early '90s music and appreciate it--it's just sad that so many of those musicians were struggling then and still struggling (or dead) now.

Courtney is starting to resemble Bette Davis in Whatever Happened to Baby Jane?...

[GirlyGhoul]

True dat, Divasahm. Who knew Dave Chappel was so prophetic?

[mariposalabrown]

I was 12 when it all hit, so I didn't quite grasp the drug use and real sadness behind it all, I just know that seeing Courtney Love at that age was very impressionable, and she kind of influenced my clothes for the rest of my life, not sure if that is a good or bad thing. Fell in the youtube rabbit hole last night watching Hole videos and they still sound current to me. She was a nut then, so no surprise she's a super nut now, too bad Frances has to deal with it, though.

Anyway, loving the discussion.

[kateln]

I loved Hole and Nirvana growing up (I was 14 and a freshman in high school when they hit it big), because at the time I was worried about my future (a lot of stories in the news about people working in grocery stores trying to pay for college), I was going through the change from middle school to high school, other stuff was going on--so it was a tumultuous time for me. And the music seemed to express what I was going through. Plus Dave Grohl went to my high school, so I have loved him since then....

Hole's cover of Fleetwood Mac's "Gold Dust Woman" is awesome.

That said, Courtney Love and Kurt Cobain were, for me, the best anti-drug message ever. I saw how talented Kurt was--but how he never seemed to be able to be totally happy. As opposed to Dave Grohl who just seemed so much fun in all of his interviews...

[Yossarian]

Courtney apologises[/color] to Frances.

[HotLips]

Apr 15, 2012 17:21:30 GMT -4 kateln said:

Hole's cover of Fleetwood Mac's "Gold Dust Woman" is awesome.

I agree. The video is pretty cool too[/color].

I'm sure Courtney has apologized to Frances about a million times in her life. It's part of the whole nasty cycle. It probably means zilch to FB at this point. The next crazy rant is just around the corner.

[badtzmaru]

Apr 15, 2012 17:21:30 GMT -4 kateln said:

Hole's cover of Fleetwood Mac's "Gold Dust Woman" is awesome.

That said, Courtney Love and Kurt Cobain were, for me, the best anti-drug message ever. I saw how talented Kurt was--but how he never seemed to be able to be totally happy. As opposed to Dave Grohl who just seemed so much fun in all of his interviews...

I agree. Especially about "Gold Dust Woman" Hole totally nailed that song. Nirvana, Pearl Jam, Hole and Soundgarden are the soundtrack of my late teens and early 20's. I think that is why I will always have a soft spot for those bands even though I recognize that Courtney is completely nuts.

[kateln]

Apr 16, 2012 15:56:52 GMT -4 @badtzmaru said:

Apr 15, 2012 17:21:30 GMT -4 kateln said:

Hole's cover of Fleetwood Mac's "Gold Dust Woman" is awesome.

That said, Courtney Love and Kurt Cobain were, for me, the best anti-drug message ever. I saw how talented Kurt was--but how he never seemed to be able to be totally happy. As opposed to Dave Grohl who just seemed so much fun in all of his interviews...

I agree. Especially about "Gold Dust Woman" Hole totally nailed that song. Nirvana, Pearl Jam, Hole and Soundgarden are the soundtrack of my late teens and early 20's. I think that is why I will always have a soft spot for those bands even though I recognize that Courtney is completely nuts.

I could never get into Soundgarden, even now I hate the song "Black Hole Sun". It just goes on so long, and every guy in my high school seemed to need to be able to play it in their garage bands.

[Ninja Bunny]

I'm from Seattle. I remember walking down University Way and seeing a handwritten handbill tacked on a pole advertizing a warehouse concert with eight local garage bands. Nirvana was the fifth one down. Another band on the list was called "The Shit Kittens."

When they went big it was amusing because it was the kind of sound I had already heard for several years so it wasn't new to me, but it was also fun because they wiped the hairbands right off the charts.

Of the grunge bands, Alice in Chains is my favorite by far. They're still putting out great music and, with the exception of "Rooster", I haven't gotten sick of their older songs.

When Hole first came out I wanted to root for them but Courtney established herself in short order as a raging nutcase so I didn't want much to do with them anymore.

[Mutagen]

Apr 16, 2012 16:41:14 GMT -4 kateln said:

Apr 16, 2012 15:56:52 GMT -4 @badtzmaru said:

I agree. Especially about "Gold Dust Woman" Hole totally nailed that song. Nirvana, Pearl Jam, Hole and Soundgarden are the soundtrack of my late teens and early 20's. I think that is why I will always have a soft spot for those bands even though I recognize that Courtney is completely nuts.

I could never get into Soundgarden, even now I hate the song "Black Hole Sun". It just goes on so long, and every guy in my high school seemed to need to be able to play it in their garage bands.

It's funny because I love Soundgarden, but Black Hole Sun is one of my least favorite songs. I honestly never understood why that was the big single for them, apart from the video.

For me, Superunknown and Badmotorfinger stood the test of time the best out of all the "grunge" albums I had back then... I don't think they ever fell completely out of rotation in my CD player/iPod, unlike a lot of their contemporaries.

As awful as Courtney is now, I still really dig a lot of songs off Live Through This.