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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2013 16:08:01 GMT -4
But whether you feel that way or not, it doesn't make what she said irrelevant. She stated her opinion about a particular experience. If she had declared herself a staunch feminist and thereby declared she would never do anything that didn't live up to those standards, THEN she'd be a hypocrite. But to me it implies a desire to do better. She was an executive producer on The Ugly Truth. She had the power to go a certain way but instead she followed up her criticism of Knocked Up by doing an even worse movie where sexism was concerned. Why should I take anything she says seriously when viewed through that prism. If something someone says has merit, I don't think there's any reason to look at it through a prism. The comments can stand on their own and you can either agree or disagree with them.
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Post by Ginger on Sept 12, 2013 16:08:48 GMT -4
I'm not real familiar with this woman and never saw Knocked Up. But it doesn't sound like what she said about it at the time was really that bad. She pointed out its sexism (which sounded spot on) and the negative aspects of her character- But she also said she had a good time 98% of the time so she isn't exactly trashing her co-workers or even the movie itself. She just didn't 'love' it. She only released the quote about what a great experience it was after she got so much blowback for criticizing it. IIRC, Seth Rogen and Judd Apatow did not respond favorably to what she said, even after she apologized. They know her, and it seems to me they wouldn't have been mad if they knew she was a great person who just put her foot in her mouth. But no, they were like, "Fuck her." IMO, Heigl's not a movie critic and it's not her job to go around giving unsolicited unfavorable critiques of things. And if I were a director, I'd be reluctant to hire her after seeing how she publicly slapped in the face the two people (Shonda Rimes and Judd Apatow) who gave her her two biggest career breaks.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2013 16:40:26 GMT -4
T.R. Knight, who KH was (maybe still is) good friends with also publicly insulted Shonda Rhimes: LINK I don't remember a big stink being made about him being ungrateful and an asshole for biting the hand that fed him, though I might have missed that. If what he's saying is true, it wouldn't be surprising that KH would hold a grudge. The 98% positive comment was within the comment she was criticized for, so that was at the same time. And there are other reasons for guys like Judd Apatow and Seth Rogen to say fuck her, like being pissed about being called out on something. If KH were the nicest person on earth, I think they'd still respond in the same way to her criticizing their work. It's how they roll. I don't think it's fair to assume that the people KH criticize are undeserving of criticism themselves; i.e., KH is the bad guy and anyone she has a problem with is the good guy. Sometimes, like with the issues above, she just might have a good point.
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Post by Ginger on Sept 12, 2013 16:53:52 GMT -4
If one of my former coworkers said about me "It was great working with her 98% of the time, but..." I'd think she was a total bitch. Many people agree with what she said about Knocked Up, but there's no reason why she needed to be the one to go around saying it. If you like working with your coworkers and you are grateful for the nice things they did for you, you don't point out the negative.
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Post by angelaudie on Sept 12, 2013 17:40:32 GMT -4
I've been hearing about Katherine Heigl's unprofessional antics since her Roswell days. I doubt she will ever change. It's a shame because she is talented and could have had a great film career. Sadly, she seems to be her own worst enemy.
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Post by OnyxRose on Sept 12, 2013 17:55:41 GMT -4
I've been hearing about Katherine Heigl's unprofessional antics since her Roswell days. I doubt she will ever change. It's a shame because she is talented and could have had a great film career. Sadly, she seems to be her own worst enemy. Yeah, I was a fan of the show and I remember hearing how horribly she and Shiri Appleby treated poor Emilie de Ravin. She's been terrible for a while and it just caught up with her.
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leena333
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Post by leena333 on Sept 12, 2013 21:31:16 GMT -4
One other incident that I remembered was the time that Katherine appeared on Letterman and said that the Grey's producers were mean because they had them working such a long day. Or something to that effect. Not sure that was the words verbatim, but that rubbed me the wrong way too.
I don't feel sorry for her at all.
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Post by prada on Sept 12, 2013 21:48:00 GMT -4
You know what? It bothers me she gets so much hate because there are actors like Sean Penn who are assholes, difficult to work with and they still don't get half the grief KH has gotten. She doesn't have a filter and that's part of the reason why she gets criticized. She was very close to many of her Grey's co-stars and other former co-stars have had many great things to say about her. Maybe her mom is difficult but people shouldn't take that out on her. When she expressed KU was sexist she was saying that her character was written as a bitch and that she found it sad that in those type of movies that is how women are often portrayed and she was right. I honestly feel like she is very talented and deserves another break. Hell, if Charlie Sheen can have a career in Hollywood after all the shit he has pulled, why can't she? Because she's a woman.
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Post by canuckcutie on Sept 12, 2013 22:01:53 GMT -4
Well I'd have to disagree on the talent. I think she's ok but nothing special. If she were amazingly talented (Oscar winning like Penn) or was the lead in a hit tv show (like Sheen) maybe she'd get cut some slack. I think talent and performing in the ratings/box office go a long way to make up for bad behaviour. In Heigl's case it's all bad behaviour and her abysmal track record at the box office does her no favors.
I think she's absolutely responsible for her mothers behaviour. Her mom is her manager and represents her. Katherine has the power to fire her and/or reign her in. She represents Katherine ergo her behaviour reflects on Katherine. Technically her mom works for her. If someone worked for me and treated people as badly as her mother has then damn right I'd hold her accountable.
I think she and her mom overplayed their hand after her Grey's/Knocked Up success. If she had a string of box office hits then people would overlook her & her moms shitty behaviour but she doesn't. Clearly it doesn't sound as though either are well liked so she's simply reaping what she's sown.
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Post by GinFizz on Sept 12, 2013 22:10:47 GMT -4
I feel like Katherine probably IS difficult and a major pain in the ass, but so much of the criticism of her is mixed up in sexism and misogyny that it's hard to know where one ends and the other begins.
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