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Post by lordofthefries on Dec 6, 2019 16:51:36 GMT -4
I agree petitiesuite. I think it's also coming from my own issues ;p I don't have kids- nor do I want kids. So I think it's ok to say - as a man or woman- NOPE- don't want that. This case is certainly more nuanced than that... and the child is here... and they should have been more responsible and taken measures to not get pregnant... and he should have a vasectomy. But now the child is here. And he doesn't want to be a part of its life. Am I saying that's wonderful and great- no! But... well... I think it's ok for a person to decide they don't want that. Not great for the kid- at all. But- well they both should have planned a lot better. And the kid (imho) is better off with him just giving his 25k a month. I definitely think people have the right to abdicate their parental responsibilities like Wilson is doing. I just think the rest of us also have a right to think poorly of him for doing so. Mostly, I feel horrible for his poor daughter. Greecies have the maturity to know that Wilson's decision to not be involved in her life has everything to do with him and nothing to do with the child, but there's almost no way she doesn't grow up feeling rejected by her father, especially knowing that he chose to parent her siblings. |
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Post by dragonflie on Dec 6, 2019 17:00:46 GMT -4
I think she'll be fine. Many many MANY people grow up with dead beat parents (more often fathers) - and in many cases they also don't get financial support. Again, not saying it's great or ideal- but better she grow up with people who want to be in her life. She will grow up with baggage (as we all do in one way or another)- but that was always going to be true.
Also- not quite sure why this is all coming out now. The mother decided to do an interview with the Daily Fail- and post her daughters pic all over the interwebs. From what I read (short 2 articles) Wilson made it clear from the moment she told him she might be preggers he was not interested in any way- and told her he would not be involved. They were together as an on/off "couple" for 5 years. She knew what she was getting into. I side eye the mother - as well as Wilson. Feel bad for the child yes- I hope she has some people in her life who genuinely show her love.
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Post by Mutagen on Dec 6, 2019 17:13:20 GMT -4
It is sad and actually in both cases the women were utterly shunned by almost all friends and family- because for a woman to do that is so so so much worse than a man (I guess :/). I have to admit, this is one source of my negative opinion of Wilson here. I think a woman who decided to openly pick and choose which of her children she wanted to have a relationship with would be crucified. |
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Post by Ginger on Dec 6, 2019 17:28:06 GMT -4
They were together as on/off "friends" for 5 years. She knew what she was getting into. I side eye the mother - and Wilson. If the mother is sketchballs, that's even more of a reason for him to be take responsibility and be involved in the kid's life. Friend of a friend is a professional escort who had a son by one of her clients. Client is married with children and lives 400 miles away. He did not want her to continue the pregnancy, but she did. The father now parents long distance, and calls that son every single night without fail. It's not an ideal situation, but I think it's probably better for the kid knowing that his father cared about him and made time for him every single day. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2019 17:41:14 GMT -4
Just as an aside, I work as a medical transcriptionist, and I remember several years ago doing a note about a woman who had her tubes tied, apparently was very early pregnant at the time, nobody knew it yet, and about 8.5 months later gave birth to a baby. Be careful out there, especially you, Owen.
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Post by dragonflie on Dec 6, 2019 17:42:46 GMT -4
Totally agree Mutagen; and I guess what I am getting at is: she shouldn't be (crucified). Women give children up for adoption every day (including to family members) Ginger- yep- that's ideal (well- as ideal as that scenario can get)- but yeah- it sucks for the kid and is sad- but sometimes a sperm donor just does not give a fuck. Sperm donors (or egg donors) does not a parent make. Moral of the story: Don't have unprotected sex unless you are prepared to raise a child. Also- don't have unprotected sex unless you know your sexual partner is ALSO prepared to raise said child. It's simple, but true. It's also easy to say from afar. How many of us have had, or know someone who has had, unprotected sex and would be mortified if that encounter resulted in a pregnancy. My guess is the vast majority. In the wise words of Dorothy Zbornak: Condoms Rose! Condoms, condoms, condoms! Wise words indeed |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2019 18:00:59 GMT -4
It is sad and actually in both cases the women were utterly shunned by almost all friends and family- because for a woman to do that is so so so much worse than a man (I guess :/). I have to admit, this is one source of my negative opinion of Wilson here. I think a woman who decided to openly pick and choose which of her children she wanted to have a relationship with would be crucified. Of course she would be, and in most cases she wouldn’t have that option, anyway. |
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Post by Nysha on Dec 6, 2019 18:46:42 GMT -4
I have known people who didn't want to be a parent or were not capable of it - but they left all their kids. They didn't say, "I'll have a parental relationship with these two, but not that one." My grandson's father did just that. He has 2 other sons that he has custody of (one now, the other is 19 & on his own). My grandson is almost 9, his father lives in the same small town and actually works at the same college where I work. He has never seen his son and doesn't want to. He gets his wages garnished for child support when he works, and his tax return confiscated every year to pay back support for all the times he didn't work. As for Wilson, I think he's a selfish jerk but I also think the baby is better off w/o him since he doesn't want her. |
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Post by Wol on Dec 6, 2019 19:57:35 GMT -4
I just skimmed the article - is there no father figure in this baby's life? Does the mom have a partner/boyfriend-type? Just because it's not Owen doesn't mean she's going to grow up without any kind of father figure.
Owen is going to reap what he sows. One day he might feel very differently about having a relationship with this child. Aging and a good look at mortality can have an impact. I hope she tells him to f**k right off.
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Post by kateln on Dec 6, 2019 21:05:42 GMT -4
As for Wilson, I think he's a selfish jerk but I also think the baby is better off w/o him since he doesn't want her. Pretty much this. The daughter is better off without him—he’s selfish and apparently not a great guy, she deserves so much more than that. |
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