Celine Dion

[divasahm]

As annoying as I thought Celine was back in the Titanic days, I have to say that Rene did an outstanding job of helping her preserve those pipes. Some of the performers who rolled their eyes over the stories of "no air-conditioning" and "no speaking before the show" aren't around any more because they shredded their vocal cords with bad technique. I wrote about Elvis in one of the history threads--my friend and her family were shocked that I declined an invitation to see him on what turned out to be his last concert tour, just four months before his death. Friend reported the next morning that Elvis now had a range of maybe an octave (not much at all), and that octave sounded weak and unstable. Lesson: never take your voice (or the rest of your body) for granted.

[lpatrice]

May 31, 2017 7:21:42 GMT -4 gremlin45 said:

May 30, 2017 21:26:14 GMT -4 @roisin54 said:

I know nothing about vocal technique but I think the fact that she's already had surgery on her vocal chords is a sign that she has or had bad technique.

She's not even 30, is she? She needs to get herself to a good singing teacher to learn good techniques.

Also, Adele is really not that good of a singer.

[luminosa]

Jun 3, 2017 22:37:26 GMT -4 lpatrice said:

May 31, 2017 7:21:42 GMT -4 gremlin45 said:

She's not even 30, is she? She needs to get herself to a good singing teacher to learn good techniques.

Also, Adele is really not that good of a singer.

[lea1977]

Celine is a singer, Adele is an artist. She can actually play instruments and write her own songs.

[fabrichnova]

Singing, and the ability to interpret a song, is its own art form and means of musical expression.

I don't think a singer is any less of an artist simply because they don't sing their own material anymore than I consider a songwriter who doesn't sing less of an artist because they write for other musicians.

[hildymatildy]

A ballet dancer is an artist even though they perform choreographed moves, what makes them an artist is the beauty of their movements, their control of their body, and how they can put their emotions into the moves. An actor is an artist. They do write their material and yet the act of building a character and bringing life and emotion to it is an art. A singer is the same, they are controlling their breathing, the notes they sing, and they are emoting the songs they sing.

Anyone can dance, act, and sing, but to be great you have to have talent and put forth the effort to practice and hone that skill.

Celine is definitely an artist through her singing. Adele is an artist as a singer and a writer. That said, Adele's primary vocal placement is in her throat. She belts most of her songs. Her bad technique lends itself to strained, scarred vocal cords and polyops.

To my ears Adele always sounds off key and flat. I can hear her voice straining and it hurts to listen to her. I always find myself tensing up when I hear her.

Sia is a good example of a singer with a damaged voice. You can hear it in the squeaks and quirks in her voice, but somehow she uses it to her advantage.

As for Celine, while her voice is beautiful there is a nasal quality I find unpleasant, Barbara Streisand has it also, but at least they are not destroying their voices.

[lea1977]

Jun 4, 2017 13:49:06 GMT -4 fabrichnova said:

Singing, and the ability to interpret a song, is its own art form and means of musical expression.

I don't think a singer is any less of an artist simply because they don't sing their own material anymore than I consider a songwriter who doesn't sing less of an artist because they write for other musicians.

They are both special in their own way, but Adele has more of an appeal to me. I just find Celine a bit too theatrical but I guess that is her own expression.

[angelaudie]

Jun 4, 2017 16:53:45 GMT -4 lea1977 said:

Jun 4, 2017 13:49:06 GMT -4 fabrichnova said:

Singing, and the ability to interpret a song, is its own art form and means of musical expression.

I don't think a singer is any less of an artist simply because they don't sing their own material anymore than I consider a songwriter who doesn't sing less of an artist because they write for other musicians.

They are both special in their own way, but Adele has more of an appeal to me. I just find Celine a bit too theatrical but I guess that is her own expression.

Yeah, on more than one occasion I've thought Celine could tone it down just a bit. But the theatrics work with some of her songs ("It's All Coming Back To Me" the best example).

I also prefer Adele but I also do worry she's destroying her voice. At least Celine was smart enough to learn ways to preserve her voice when she was faced with the real possibility of losing it back in the early 90's.

[memememe76]

But Celine is theatrical. That is just her. It is one and the same.

[hildymatildy]

Jun 4, 2017 16:53:45 GMT -4 lea1977 said:

Jun 4, 2017 13:49:06 GMT -4 fabrichnova said:

Singing, and the ability to interpret a song, is its own art form and means of musical expression.

I don't think a singer is any less of an artist simply because they don't sing their own material anymore than I consider a songwriter who doesn't sing less of an artist because they write for other musicians.

They are both special in their own way, but Adele has more of an appeal to me. I just find Celine a bit too theatrical but I guess that is her own expression.

That is what makes life beautiful, that there are a variety of choices. Adele for you. Celen for others, and maybe sometimes there is common ground. Variety is the spice of life.