Pirates of the Caribbean: Past, Present & Future

[laconicchick]

Oh the dead can wait. They aren't going anywhere!

Do you WANT <<Will to turn into a squid-faced monster too?>>

[thecupcakekid]

Oh. No...no I don't. But an hour or two won't hurt his beautiful face!

[laconicchick]

That's probably true. ;D

[huntergrayson]

It'd be super awkward if that hour or two hurt, ahem, other places.

Don't do a fourth movie, guys. Seriously.

Also, I love how everyone thinks Dutchman Will! is hot. My companion turned to me and was like "I've never thought Orlando was that hot but I want him NOW!"

[plainjane]

Saw it again with my friend. We cut out of work early to go see it. It really held up the second time around and actually made me watch it again. I think I understood the plot better the second time around, but there are still some things I don't understand.
***In the very first scene, we see the little boy who starts singing hoist the colors has a silver coin in his hand. Later, Becket has it and he calls it one of the nine pieces of eight. But at the meeting of eight, when Barbossa asks the pirate lords to hand over their pieces of eight, they give up "the junk they happened to have with them" not the coins. So what is the significance of the coins that Becket collects?
Also according to Wikipedia (so probably not canon) Barbossa is the Pirate Lord of the Caspian Sea while Jack is the Pirate Lord of the Caribbean. But I have no idea how he came to be a pirate lord, although it seems like he was at the first Brethren Court since he knows what happened.***

[laconicchick]

I wonder how old Jack and Barbossa are. Do we know how long ago the Brethren Court took place? That might help explain things.

[huntergrayson]

plainjane -- as far as I can tell, everyone in the film except the actual Pirate lords thinks the pieces of eight are literal. Beckett thinks he's being awesome because he has them, but he doesn't. I have no idea why Beckett needed them, though, since he just wanted to kill a shitload of Pirates and had nothing to do with the whole Calypso thing. Or did he?

Wow, this movie IS confusing.

Eh, everything "clicked" for me on some level, so I don't care. It made sense without always making literal sense.

An interesting plot comparison was made by the LA Citybeat dude between this and Matrix Revolutions. But I didn't care about *any* of the characters whatsoever by the time that film came around.

[plainjane]

huntergrayson that makes a lot of sense. Although since he didn't know what they were for, they would have been useless to him anyway right? ***I think Becket thought he could probably "control" the pirates with the peices of eight, like he controlled Davy Jones by being in posession of his heart.***

LC, I don't the first Brethren Court ***took place that long ago. Davy says that when he came ashore after ten years ago looking for Calypso, she wasn't there. So I think somewhere between ten and twenty years. Davy come ashore, doesn't see Calypso, goes back to the Flying Dutchman, and stops doing his job. Also in DMC we learn that 13 years ago, Davy gave Capt. Jack the Black Pearl. Although Barbossa calls this the fourth Brethren Court so what happened during the second and third ones? ***

Maybe the DVD release will help to clarify a lot of this stuff.

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I've also wondered exactly how old Jack is supposed to be, I think the fact that Johnny Depp hasn't aged at all since 1990 doesn't help matters any. He's the youngest looking 43-year-old man I've ever seen.

[Cranky Old Broad]

roisin54 said:

I've also wondered exactly how old Jack is supposed to be, I think the fact that Johnny Depp hasn't aged at all since 1990 doesn't help matters any. He's the youngest looking 43-year-old man I've ever seen.

When my husband and I saw the first Pirates in the theater and the scene where Jack wakes up on the beach after Elizabeth got him drunk, I was stunned. Here he was in a major close-up on a huge screen and I didn't see a wrinkle. I whispered to my husband, "That man doesn't age." Kinda eerie, huh? But oh, so pretty.