veronicamars
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Post by veronicamars on Apr 20, 2005 12:21:48 GMT -4
It's odd to me that for someone as famous as Babe, his life is so undocumented.
I went on the net and looked up pics of Merle Oberon and I find it really odd that anyone would think she was all white. She clearly looked Eurasian. I think that there is no way she would have made it in film if she had started out in America. As it is, she didn't have that huge of a career over here after Wuthering Heights.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2005 0:16:46 GMT -4
I don't know about this. There is a wide variety of European appearances and many look 'exotic'. I'm not saying she doesn't look like like she could have mixed ancestry but if she was all white I could believe it, no problem. Some slavs have that look.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2005 3:42:30 GMT -4
Gossipista,
All I have is that her mother was named Beatrice Finlay, an only child, born in India sometime during WWII. Her grandfather was a Colonel Finlay, I don't have a first name. Apparently the Daily Mail or some such paper did a family tree on her at the time of her wedding to Paul, but I never saw it myself.
In her autobiography, she says her mother was raised in India and "posh English boarding schools," and her grandparents moved from India to Scotland after the colonel retired from the British army, where they apparently lived in some wealth. No information on her grandmother, not a name or nationality, except she died of cancer sometime in the late 50's/early 60's, and Mills writes that she never met the colonel herself, as he severed ties with his daughter after she married Mark Mills (Heather's father) and only reappeared once, to visit her mother after she was in a severe car accident.
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veronicamars
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Post by veronicamars on Apr 21, 2005 12:13:54 GMT -4
Heather Mills is a notorious liar, among other things. I wouldn't trust a word she said.
I know that appearances can vary in people of Caucasian descent, but Merle's appearance is stretching it.
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Post by queequeg on Apr 28, 2005 8:07:44 GMT -4
I don't think anyone's mentioned this yet, but I was quite surprised to hear that Jennifer Tilly was half Chinese.
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veronicamars
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Post by veronicamars on Apr 28, 2005 11:57:30 GMT -4
Jennifer Tilly looks Eurasian. I also hear that she doesn't like to claim it. Maxine Bahn, who used to date Ed Burns is also half Chinese.
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Post by brinksteria on Apr 28, 2005 17:40:35 GMT -4
I've seen Jennifer Tilly on the Tonight Show, saying: "I'm half-Chinese."
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Post by Auroranorth on Apr 29, 2005 11:04:15 GMT -4
Actually, no, you can't. In Orthodox and Conservative Judaism you are identified as Jewish if your mother was born Jewish or has converted before your birth. In Reform Judaism you are identified as Jewish if you have one Jewish parent and are raised in the faith. I fall into this category- my Jewish father and Anglican mother decided to raise the kids Jewish since trying to explain Anglican Cohens was a lot more difficult back then. However, you aren't "part" Jewish. It's a yes or no proposition.
If they were raised in the way I describe above, then they qualify as Jewish in a Reform congregation.
You may fall away from the faith, but you are officially considered non-Jewish when you convert to another religion. Former British Prime Minister Benjamin Disraeli converted from Judaism to the Church of England, and was seen by Jews as COE and by Christians as Jewish.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2005 13:58:40 GMT -4
Once you're Jewish, whether by birth or conversion, you can never be not Jewish unless you expressly reject it by converting to another faith.
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Post by egplantda on Apr 29, 2005 14:36:08 GMT -4
Love this thread! I have always been fascinated by this topic because my own family background has given me what I like to call heightened "Black-dar". I remember seeing the posters for the musical "Hello Dolly" as a child (1970s) and asking my grandma why that black woman (Carole Channing) had silver hair. Anyway, I know that people are often confused about racial mixing especially when it happens outside the US. Many folks don't understand that many "europeans" have black ancestry due to a prolonged european slave trade and that you can be Mexican, Chilean, Argentinian, Puerto Rican and be black (Latin America was populated basically the same way as the US with higher Indian survival rates and sanctioned interracial marriage between all races). Anyway, this is a good history link and lists some celebs and historical figures. And yes, Ben Harper is bi-racial, white mother/black father and the father of Laura Dern's children. He and Lenny Kravitz could be brothers, they have always looked so much alike to me esp. since Lenny lost the locks. Hope I did that link right ETA: Almost, you forgot the last / in the ending url].
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