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Post by Mugsy on Mar 14, 2021 9:18:12 GMT -4
But kids are still necessary for storytelling in movies and tv. What would be a better way to have kids in show business without it turning out badly? There are many cases of well- adjusted former child actors.
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Post by horseface on Mar 14, 2021 9:55:37 GMT -4
But kids are still necessary for storytelling in movies and tv. What would be a better way to have kids in show business without it turning out badly? There are many cases of well- adjusted former child actors. I have no idea myself. Years ago I remember watching Leif Garrett in one of those Behind the Music shows. His mum spoke about how she has various encounters with Brooke Shields and her mum. Apparently Brooke's mum was very present and not as permissive as the other stage parents, and she was criticized for this. Initially Leif's mum thought she was overprotective and awful. She then said, "I take my hat of to her. No one messed with her kid."
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Post by scarlet on Mar 14, 2021 10:55:48 GMT -4
On that note, there's a new documentary on Hulu called Kid90, made by Soleil Moon Frye, about growing up in show business. She doesn't trash it, but she definitely shows the dark side.
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Post by Beyle on Mar 14, 2021 17:24:47 GMT -4
On that note, there's a new documentary on Hulu called Kid90, made by Soleil Moon Frye, about growing up in show business. She doesn't trash it, but she definitely shows the dark side. Ooooooo. I need to watch this one. I saw the Child Actors one, which wound up depressing me about the business.
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Post by discoprincess on Mar 14, 2021 19:16:57 GMT -4
But kids are still necessary for storytelling in movies and tv. What would be a better way to have kids in show business without it turning out badly? There are many cases of well- adjusted former child actors. I have no idea myself. Years ago I remember watching Leif Garrett in one of those Behind the Music shows. His mum spoke about how she has various encounters with Brooke Shields and her mum. Apparently Brooke's mum was very present and not as permissive as the other stage parents, and she was criticized for this. Initially Leif's mum thought she was overprotective and awful. She then said, "I take my hat of to her. No one messed with her kid." JoJo (the R&B singer known for the hit single "Get Out (Leave), not the JoJo known for the oversized hair bows) did a post-and-delete reaction to the documentary "Surviving R. Kelly" a while back. JoJo's first record contract was with the same company to which the late Aaliyah was signed - the Aaliyah who was (not-so) secretly married to R. Kelly while she was underage. JoJo had also wanted to work with R. Kelly as he was a big star back then. I think JoJo said that she remembered hearing some wild stories about her time at Blackground Records.
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Post by petitesuite on Mar 14, 2021 19:18:20 GMT -4
But kids are still necessary for storytelling in movies and tv. What would be a better way to have kids in show business without it turning out badly? There are many cases of well- adjusted former child actors. I have read that when the Harry Potter franchise was seeking child actors they specifically screened out kids whose parents seemed fame- or money-hungry. Those movies didn't really produce any trainwrecks despite casting dozens of children so presumably whatever was done there worked and could be replicated? I think screening like that would have prevented Lindsay Lohan, for example, from ever getting within 500 feet of a set which probably would have been for the best. I don't really know what exactly the screening consisted of (presumably if you asked even the crappiest parent "are you hoping to live entirely off of your child's earnings as soon as possible" they would probably say no), but it makes sense to me that stable, loving, non-predatory parents would really help a child star to turn out normal.
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Post by groovethang on Mar 14, 2021 19:26:02 GMT -4
But kids are still necessary for storytelling in movies and tv. What would be a better way to have kids in show business without it turning out badly? There are many cases of well- adjusted former child actors. I have read that when the Harry Potter franchise was seeking child actors they specifically screened out kids whose parents seemed fame- or money-hungry. Those movies didn't really produce any trainwrecks despite casting dozens of children so presumably whatever was done there worked and could be replicated? I think screening like that would have prevented Lindsay Lohan, for example, from ever getting within 500 feet of a set which probably would have been for the best. I don't really know what exactly the screening consisted of (presumably if you asked even the crappiest parent "are you hoping to live entirely off of your child's earnings as soon as possible" they would probably say no), but it makes sense to me that stable, loving, non-predatory parents would really help a child star to turn out normal. I think the first thing would be learn which parents manage their children and take a percentage of their earnings. I’m almost certain that would lead to bad decisions for many parent-managers.
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Post by Auroranorth on Mar 14, 2021 21:08:05 GMT -4
But kids are still necessary for storytelling in movies and tv. What would be a better way to have kids in show business without it turning out badly? There are many cases of well- adjusted former child actors. I have read that when the Harry Potter franchise was seeking child actors they specifically screened out kids whose parents seemed fame- or money-hungry. Those movies didn't really produce any trainwrecks despite casting dozens of children so presumably whatever was done there worked and could be replicated? I think screening like that would have prevented Lindsay Lohan, for example, from ever getting within 500 feet of a set which probably would have been for the best. I don't really know what exactly the screening consisted of (presumably if you asked even the crappiest parent "are you hoping to live entirely off of your child's earnings as soon as possible" they would probably say no), but it makes sense to me that stable, loving, non-predatory parents would really help a child star to turn out normal. Agreed. The Harry Potter kids all seem to be doing OK, one way or the other. Not everyone is still acting, but they all seem to be functional adults. Of the big three, Emma Watson's parents were both lawyers, and while she was at a theater school, she had no professional experience. Rupert Grint's family was also from outside the acting world, and he had no experience outside school plays either. While Dan Radcliffe's parents both acted as children, and his mother was a casting agent, they knew the pitfalls and Dan didn't start acting professionally till he was ten, shortly before the Harry Potter films started casting.
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Post by boxofrocks on Mar 15, 2021 3:14:12 GMT -4
I have no idea myself. Years ago I remember watching Leif Garrett in one of those Behind the Music shows. His mum spoke about how she has various encounters with Brooke Shields and her mum. Apparently Brooke's mum was very present and not as permissive as the other stage parents, and she was criticized for this. Initially Leif's mum thought she was overprotective and awful. She then said, "I take my hat of to her. No one messed with her kid." Hmm. That's interesting--IIRC Brooke Shields' mom got a lot of criticism for being a pushy stage mom and letting Brooke take on jobs that were too sexual for her age, like "Pretty Baby," the Calvin Klein ads, and "The Blue Lagoon." I remember watching the "Pretty Baby" on DVD with a friend once and we were both horrified at what she was permitted to do as a child actress.
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Post by horseface on Mar 15, 2021 7:35:44 GMT -4
I have no idea myself. Years ago I remember watching Leif Garrett in one of those Behind the Music shows. His mum spoke about how she has various encounters with Brooke Shields and her mum. Apparently Brooke's mum was very present and not as permissive as the other stage parents, and she was criticized for this. Initially Leif's mum thought she was overprotective and awful. She then said, "I take my hat of to her. No one messed with her kid." Hmm. That's interesting--IIRC Brooke Shields' mom got a lot of criticism for being a pushy stage mom and letting Brooke take on jobs that were too sexual for her age, like "Pretty Baby," the Calvin Klein ads, and "The Blue Lagoon." I remember watching the "Pretty Baby" on DVD with a friend once and we were both horrified at what she was permitted to do as a child actress. I haven't seen either film, but I have heard enough about them that I am horrified myself. It seems like Brooke turned out to be well adjusted (I will stand corrected if that is not the case). Maybe her mum pushed for the casting and kept her away from all the other stuff?
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