Veronica Mars

[Witchie]

2nd kiss: Hotter than the first. They do make a cute couple, which means they'll be plenty of angst along the way.

So can we eliminate Weevil as a suspect? While I doubt Rob would get rid of him, Weevil didn't do himself any favors last night. Stealing the pen? Stupid and a risk he didn't necessarily have to take. What was so important he'd risk jail? I don't think it has to do with their sexual relationship, and more with Weevil's side business.

And Aaron Echolls just moved up to the top of my list of suspects. He was creepy and truly psycho last night. He turned that rage on and off like a light bulb switch. I could see him hurting Lilly because she cuckolded Logan, and that would in turn embarass Aaron.

Hell, I don't know, but I'm glad we're getting another season.

[veronicamars]

I could hear Leo's heart break when Veronica dumped him last night. As for Logan, I hope veronica questions herself as to why she would be with someone who clearly did all he could do to damage her rep. I think that either Weevil or Logan is the rapist.

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And Aaron Echolls just moved up to the top of my list of suspects. He was creepy and truly psycho last night. He turned that rage on and off like a light bulb switch. I could see him hurting Lilly because she cuckolded Logan, and that would in turn embarass Aaron.

I'm sort of torn, maybe it's just cause I'm a parent; but to me his rage seemed sort of justifiable not so much psycho. (that's not to say it was right or that I'd do the same thing only that I get that anger) This was a guy who beat up his daughter.

But another thought occured to me maybe he did kill Lilly but not because of his son, but because Lilly was sleeping with him too? She was threatening to expose him and he turned on her? Another thought, someone mentioned that they thought that the music played during that scene was the same tune used during the rape scene. Maybe it was Aaron that killed Lilly and raped Veronica. I mean if the guy has a thing for young girls why would he pass up one laying there unconscious? Wasn't the party at his house? oh and what if his wife put two and two together and he killed her?

Cause boy wouldn't that screw up Duncan and Veronica's new relationship? Gee honey I'm so sorry my dad raped you? hmmm this is going to drive me crazy for the next few weeks. I love it!

[kostgard]

But another thought occured to me maybe he did kill Lilly but not because of his son, but because Lilly was sleeping with him too? She was threatening to expose him and he turned on her?

That is an interesting theory. Aaron Echols does seem to like the young ladies and between beating Logan and his behavior last night, he does have a history of violence. And he also has a lot of money and power - perhaps he is also paying Clarence Wiedman and asked him to make it look like Duncan did it, knowing that the Kanes would do anything to cover that up.

I don't think Duncan killed Lilly, but I do wonder if he is the one who raped Veronica during one of his "fugues."

[Witchie]

Spiffsin said:

I'm sort of torn, maybe it's just cause I'm a parent; but to me his rage seemed sort of justifiable not so much psycho. (that's not to say it was right or that I'd do the same thing only that I get that anger) This was a guy who beat up his daughter.

Oh, I agree his rage was justified. Dillion deserved the beat down and more, but knowing what he does to Logan, it all seemed sorta surreal.

But another thought occured to me maybe he did kill Lilly but not because of his son, but because Lilly was sleeping with him too? She was threatening to expose him and he turned on her? Another thought, someone mentioned that they thought that the music played during that scene was the same tune used during the rape scene. Maybe it was Aaron that killed Lilly and raped Veronica. I mean if the guy has a thing for young girls why would he pass up one laying there unconscious? Wasn't the party at his house? oh and what if his wife put two and two together and he killed her?

Cause boy wouldn't that screw up Duncan and Veronica's new relationship? Gee honey I'm so sorry my dad raped you? hmmm this is going to drive me crazy for the next few weeks. I love it!

I'm not so much sold on Aaron as Veronica's rapist as I am Lilly's killer. His image is everything, and exposing their affair would be enough to send him into a rage.

I'm leaning toward Duncan as Veronica's rapist. During his episodes, he doesn't know what he's doing and he was at the party. I could see him finding Veronica drugged, maybe fooling around with someone else (not a spoiler, just speculation) and in his anger, he rapes her, but doesn't remember it in the morning.

veronicamars, I think Veronica will question her attraction to Logan, but I think she's come to the realization he was hurt terribly by Lilly's death. He felt betrayed by Veronica and abandoned by Lilly, so he took it out on the one person he could. It wasn't fair, but I think she understands where he was coming from.

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My personal speculation that in a heated moment between Logan and V he is going to call her Lily, considering they look alike and were BFF. and that will bring in some angsty feelings on Veronica cause she starts to wonder if logan is wanting her, or lily?

I also belive Duncan may be the rapist, but he was out of it and it is possible that he may be getting memories of the party (which was at Shelly Pomeroroy's house BTW) and possibly of the night of Lily's murder. again speculation. but as to the killer? i have racked my brain over and over, i belive it could be a case of mistaken identity by Celeste Kane, or in a creepy almost impossible twist, Veronica's mom. yeah she has alibi but that would put a strain on her realationship with Veronica, who put her thru rehab to get her to come home, and keith, who had no idea she could be involved and cost them their 09er life.

[LurkerNan]

The only way I can see Duncan doing it is if he doesn't remember any of it.

Why Oh Why are there no wildfeeds for Veronica Mars? I'm frantic to finally start getting some answers tonight. I'm spoiled like cafeteria milk, but the spoilers haven't been firm enough to make me feel spoiled, you know...

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Yay! New ep tonight!! This is like the only show that I anticipate as soon as the current ep is over. Do we get to find out about the rape tonight?

[kostgard]

I'm not sure, but I think we learn about the rape tonight and the murder next week.

I've got my theories in place. I can't wait to find out if I am right or wrong. I love being wrong (meaning they weren't being predictable), but only if it is plausible and the clues add up.

[Witchie]

Here's my speculation.

Rapist: Duncan, but it'll come out that he was drunk/drugged and thought it was consensual or doesn't remember it.

Murderer: Clarence Wiedman. He was going to blackmail the Echolls and Kanes with their various misdeeds, and Lilly somehow found out.

We'll see if I'm right. I doubt it, though. This show has not been predictable.