Torchwood

[tszuj]

I'm a huge TW fan, and this is what I've got from the official site and interviews (which may or may not be considered canon):
The demon Abbadon is supposed to be the son of the devil we saw in The Satan Pit.
Gwen brought Jack back to life because she has the "joie de vivre" -- see previous episodes were life force is transferred by a kiss.
Jack and Ianto are indeed lovers. The Torchwood site has some cute IM convos between them.

Jack will appear in eps 11, 12 and 13 of Doctor Who. He will also be back in the first episode of the next season of Torchwood, "a few seconds later from Jack's perspective".

[roobarb]

*sigh*

Weren't the last 2 episodes fantastic?

The creepy guy, the real Jack, the stabbing, the shooting, the snogging, the end! Oh, the end! I squeed all over the place (which sounds messier than it is ).

Why couldn't the whole season have been that good? Hopefully the second season will keep up the momentum.

Oh, and for someone who was asking upthread, (Dr Who season 3 casting info) --> Jack will be in season 3 episodes 11, 12 & 13, apparently. . The season starts airing in the UK in April, I believe.

edit - damn, beaten to the Doctor Who information!

[laconicchick]

Ooh, tszuj, that's really good to know (about the monster and Gwen). I try to read the stuff at the Torchwood Hub, but it's just so frustrating with those windows moving around all the time. And the non-flashy site doesn't seem to have all the info. Or did you get that from the actual BBC site (as opposed to torchwood.org.uk)? I've read some Jack/Ianto IM conversations, but did they say anything definitive? I can't recall. Oh well.

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tszuj, it is totally your fault I just spent an hour looking for evidence of Jack and Ianto in the Torchwood sites. (It's here, if anyone else wants to read it. Very cute. God, I'll bet there's some good Jack/Ianto fic out there. Hm.)

I couldn't find the stuff about Abaddon being the son of the Satan Pit demon, but I'll take your word for it, because my eyes are crossing. It's an awesomely creepy concept, enormous demons hidden in planets around the universe.

This:

Gwen brought Jack back to life because she has the "joie de vivre" -- see previous episodes were life force is transferred by a kiss.

is very interesting. I hope they don't just drop it, because it's got massive implications for the rest of Gwen's life.

I have great hopes for season 2. Fingers crossed they keep on the way the last couple of episodes were going.

Oh, there was an interesting note from Jack to a "boss" on Torchwood.org.uk, in the Fairies episode files, which seemed to imply that he was around in the 1908 flashback as part of a con, rather than just living out his (immortal) life from some unknown point in the past, which is what I sort of assumed. So they really have to tell us, now, what point in time he came back to, and how he got there from 100,000 years in the future when he actually died.

There was also a note in Ianto's file where he's getting online counselling, and he comments that Torchwood Cardiff is a support unit, which backs up what someone said upthread about it being the leftovers.

[tszuj]

There's also an IM on the flash sites (which is a bugger to navigate) between Ianto and Tosh, where she talks about what went on when they were in the 1940s, and tells him that a) Jack is gay and b) Jack made out with real Jack. Ianto logs off abruptly when he hears the last one.

From interviews: JB (who, incidentally, slags off Tom Cruise in the new DW magazine -- fantastic!) said Ianto is Jack's "boytoy" -- of course that isn't Jack's opinion, it's John's. Gareth David Lloyd said something about Ianto always hero-worshiping Jack, and looking up to him. So, the actors' pov seems to be that they are sleeping together but that it's mostly sexual on Jack's part, and more emotional for whatever reason on Ianto's (my pet theory is that he's redirecting his issues from Lisa onto Jack in a tortured yet healing repressive/obsessive way). Not that that means the writers feel the same way, or will develop the story that way in the future. The 'Gwen joie de vivre' stuff was JB's opinion too, btw -- from the Declassified for ep 13.

Oh, lordy, there is tons and tons of fanfic on LJ. BDSM J/I (I refuse to write 'Janto') seems especially popular.

[laconicchick]

Gwen brought Jack back to life because she has the "joie de vivre" -- see previous episodes were life force is transferred by a kiss.

I watched the Declassified, but I don't remember that... I may have tuned out, or maybe I interpreted differently? But anyway... I wonder if that means he ONLY came back to life because of Gwen, or if his unable-to-die thing had a part in it. If the former, does that mean he can die now? Because I don't think that's as fun. Plus then he'll have nothing to angst at the Doctor about except for being abandoned, having to find his way back, and not being able to die until now.

[tszuj]

The part about it being related to the 'sharing lifeforce with a kiss' thing that happened when Jack brought Carys and Ianto back is just my interpretation; what John said in Declassified is: "I think Gwen has the spark of life and love and joie de vivre and she gave him that spark and that's what brought him back" (it was right at the end).

What makes me curious is what happened to his body over those few days. I mean, did his body go into rigor mortis or suffer any decay? It's probably cold in the storage room, but he wasn't in the freezer, and a body just lying around for a few days? Ew. That should have given them a hint as to whether he was coming back.

[laconicchick]

Yeah, I was thinking that too -- his body didn't seem to be decomposing or anything, so you would think they would have suspected something weird was going on.

For some reason I was thinking the kiss between Gwen and that dead guy (the boring one) had something to do with her bringing him back... But then why would a dead guy give her that? So never mind.

[indygirl]

BBC America is promo-ing Torchwood during the Dr. Who marathon--series premiere in September!

[proper stranger]

YAY!!!

Will BBCA edit the episodes (like Doctor Who)? Oh well--I'm happy with any amount of John Barrowman/Captain Jack on my TV!