Roman Polanski

[hellsbells]

I believe this. Why? Because entitled men who think they can give 13 year old quaaludes, have sex with them, and not think it was a problem, feel they can do that to pretty much anybody. The 70s were a shitty time. Heffner's parties were a quaalude extravaganza. It seemed normal to ply people with drugs then have sex with them, even if they were underage and incapable of consent (x2).

Ugh ugh ugh. I'm so sorry he did this to this woman, and whomever else has to live with the sleazery.

[luminosa]

And the shitty thing is that while it is 99.9% true, she's going to be the one doubted even though HE is the known rapist. "Why did she wait so long to say something?", "She is just looking for her 15 minutes..." etc. makes me sick. Not sure why criminals are innocent until proven guilty but victims of assault who are brace enough to come forward are the questionable ones.

**Trigger warning**





My mother was kidnapped when she was about four. He got her in the car by saying he was a friend of her mom and that she was in the hospital and he would take her there to see her. Instead, the kidnapper drove her somewhere by the water and masturbated in front of her (she can't remember if anything further happened, she doesn't think so). When he was finished they went by a house with someone standing in the yard and my mom waved at them. She didn't know them but they saw her and waved back, the guy got spooked and let her out at the end of the block.
I tell this story because when my mom got home the police asked a four year old girl what she did wrong? My mom is super smart but being four, she believed the adults telling her it was her fault. Her mom was lovely but not equipped to talk about it with her and it was just the two of them. It wasn't until she got to college and people were more open with talking about sexual assault did she even realize what it was.

I hate that this "man" is not only walking around free, but making movies. That somehow because he is a great artist that excuses him. I know from this thread he hasn't had the easiest life, but a lot of people don't.

[ladyboy]

That's an awful story, luminosa. I'm sorry it happened to your mom.

On Polanski, it sucks. Women are always getting the shitty end of the stick, and I can but hope that the rise of Trump and Stupid White Guys Who Love Him are the death rattle of male dominance, and things are changing because women are getting more power. It sucks now, but I don't think you can put the social changes that have occurred over the past 40 years back into the bottle, no matter how much some may try.

[Neurochick]

Jun 9, 2007 10:03:44 GMT -4 hellsbells said:

The 70s were a shitty time

I get this comment, but I don't think the 70's were a shitty time for everybody. I was a teenager then and I used to love to watch Soul Train and see black people, black women with their natural hair; black women who didn't feel the need to put lye in their hair to "relax" it or have an Indian woman's hair sewn into their hair to look acceptable.

But I agree that for some things, the past, not just the 70's were not a great time for women, especially women who were sexually assaulted.

And luminosa that is terrible what happened to your mom. And that cop was just ignorant.

[hildymatildy]

Oct 7, 2017 21:45:11 GMT -4 Neurochick said:

Jun 9, 2007 10:03:44 GMT -4 hellsbells said:

The 70s were a shitty time

I get this comment, but I don't think the 70's were a shitty time for everybody. I was a teenager then and I used to love to watch Soul Train and see black people, black women with their natural hair; black women who didn't feel the need to put lye in their hair to "relax" it or have an Indian woman's hair sewn into their hair to look acceptable.

But I agree that for some things, the past, not just the 70's were not a great time for women, especially women who were sexually assaulted.

And luminosa that is terrible what happened to your mom. And that cop was just ignorant.

This is a bit off topic but I love seeing people with their natural hair. It is always so beautiful and I am aware of the work that goes into it. As a white girl with wash and wear hair I always feel shy complementing people on their hair. As I am also aware of the hair culture of ethnic hair, would it come off wrong of me to show my appreciation for their hard work?

[Ginger]

Same here, hildy. I'm a white woman so it's none of my business how black women want to wear their hair, but I think natural hair is gorgeous.

[mrspickles]

Oct 8, 2017 19:46:00 GMT -4 hildymatildy said:

Oct 7, 2017 21:45:11 GMT -4 Neurochick said:

I get this comment, but I don't think the 70's were a shitty time for everybody. I was a teenager then and I used to love to watch Soul Train and see black people, black women with their natural hair; black women who didn't feel the need to put lye in their hair to "relax" it or have an Indian woman's hair sewn into their hair to look acceptable.

But I agree that for some things, the past, not just the 70's were not a great time for women, especially women who were sexually assaulted.

And luminosa that is terrible what happened to your mom. And that cop was just ignorant.

This is a bit off topic but I love seeing people with their natural hair. It is always so beautiful and I am aware of the work that goes into it. As a white girl with wash and wear hair I always feel shy complementing people on their hair. As I am also aware of the hair culture of ethnic hair, would it come off wrong of me to show my appreciation for their hard work?

As I have hit a certain age I no longer have the patience to wait for 'the right moment' or the desire to keep my mouth shut because I'm afraid of what someone else might think. I now don't feel too bad about asking the young lady at Walmart how she bends her knees to walk in those above knee skintight boots, or asking someone if I can read both sides of their tee shirt. One of the benefits to this new attitude is the very pleased look I see from women when I tell them simply "you are stunning!" or "my word, you have the most amazing smile!"

I really hope that I don't inadvertently offend someone, but I say it because I mean it and I hope that it lets someone know that they are appreciated on some level. It does freak out the bill collectors when I tell them 'you have the most wonderful laugh!' or something. But hey, they're just doing their jobs. It isn't their fault I'm past due on my cable bill!

[wixy]

You know, in the year 2017, with all the crap going on in the world, I'm making small changes. No clicks, no views, no money for problematic assholes like Polanski. I know it's one small person doing one small thing, but it's the only way I can think to make some sort of impact. We can't keep letting these predators get away with their actions and get pass after pass because they happen to have some talent.

You know what takes talent these days? Being a decent human being. Him, Woody Allen, Harvey Weinstein, all those assholes should try it.

[save lilo!]

Oct 7, 2017 21:45:11 GMT -4 Neurochick said:

Jun 9, 2007 10:03:44 GMT -4 hellsbells said:

The 70s were a shitty time

I get this comment, but I don't think the 70's were a shitty time for everybody. I was a teenager then and I used to love to watch Soul Train and see black people, black women with their natural hair; black women who didn't feel the need to put lye in their hair to "relax" it or have an Indian woman's hair sewn into their hair to look acceptable.

But I agree that for some things, the past, not just the 70's were not a great time for women, especially women who were sexually assaulted.

I'm sure the 70s weren't great for the black people whose hair was natural either. It's not like racism went away then and came back just now.

On topic:
I hope the Weinstein thing trickles down to Polanski / Allen, and Hollywood stops working with them after their Twitter denouncements. It seems like at least in Hollywood, this is a pivotal moment. I can only dream that something like this happens our politicians.

[Carolina]

Ol' Rapey Roman won Best Director and Best Adapted Screenplay at the Cesar Awards tonight for his movie about the Dreyfus Affair.

Roman and the entire cast are apparently cowards:

Neither Polanski nor the cast and crew of “An Officer And A Spy” (“J’accuse”) was on hand at the awards ceremony hosted at the Salle Pleyel in Paris on Friday. Polanski said on Thursday that he would skip the celebration to avoid being “lynched,” but that didn’t prevent a protest by more than 100 people that was staged in front the venue by the advocacy group Osez le Feminisme.

...
The film’s producer Alain Goldman said on Friday that the team would boycott the ceremony due to what he perceived as “an escalation of inappropriate and violent language and behavior.” Goldman referred to the comment made by French culture minister Franck Riester on Thursday that “an award for Roman Polanski would give a wrong symbol.”

Of course, POS Roman compared outrage at a rapist on the lam being given an award to a lynching.