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[petitesuite]

Dec 12, 2017 16:42:14 GMT -4 Mugsy said:

Call Me By Your Name is getting a lot of praise, but it isn't it about a 30-something man having a romance with a 17-year-old? How is that considered a love story? If teenage girls, even when consenting, can't have legit relationships with older men, how can teenage boys? Or am I wrong about the plot?

Right? I started reading the book and was so thoroughly creeped out I couldn’t get through it. I realize there’s a significant historical basis for ‘gay relationships’* with a large age gap but there’s significant historical basis for many things we no longer romanticize. Plus in the book, the younger character is really very sheltered, making it even more distressing/clear that the older is taking advantage.


*In quotes because this is not how the Greeks would have really thought of them, I believe!

[scarlet]

FYI, just because I'm a stickler for details, the ages of the two guys in Call Me By Your Name are 17 and 24, not thirty-something.

Commence critique.

[Mugsy]

Although Armie Hammer is 30 and looks it, and the 17-year-old actor looks 14. So it looks creepy to me.

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Dec 12, 2017 22:50:52 GMT -4 Mugsy said:

Although Armie Hammer is 30 and looks it, and the 17-year-old actor looks 14. So it looks creepy to me.

Same here. I have no desire to see it, because it looks super creepy to me. And it annoys me that it keeps topping all the best movies of 2017 lists movie critics are producing right now.

I will see Lady Bird eventually though. I just have to get over my strong irrational dislike of Greta Gerwig a little more.

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I absolutely adored Call me by your name; it’s the only movie I’ve seen this year that has left its mark and I can’t wait to see it again. The age thing didn’t bother me at all tbh. I can see why it might be a problem for others (it seems to be in particular a problem for Americans, which I get).
And Timothée is phenomenal in this. I know he won’t win the Oscar but his performance will be a fave of mine forever.

[mochakitty]

The 2018 SAG Awards nominations were announced today (December 13th):

MOVIE NOMINATIONS

Outstanding Performance by a Female Actor in a Leading Role

JUDI DENCH / Queen Victoria – “VICTORIA & ABDUL” (Focus Features)
SALLY HAWKINS / Elisa Esposito – “THE SHAPE OF WATER” (Fox Searchlight)
FRANCES McDORMAND / Mildred – “THREE BILLBOARDS OUTSIDE EBBING, MISSOURI” (Fox Searchlight)
MARGOT ROBBIE / Tonya Harding – “I, TONYA” (Neon)
SAOIRSE RONAN / Lady Bird McPherson – “LADY BIRD” (A24)

Outstanding Performance by a Male Actor in a Leading Role

TIMOTHÉE CHALAMET / Elio – “CALL ME BY YOUR NAME” (Sony Pictures Classics)
JAMES FRANCO / Tommy Wiseau – “THE DISASTER ARTIST” (A24)
DANIEL KALUUYA / Chris Washington – “GET OUT” (Universal Pictures)
GARY OLDMAN / Winston Churchill – “DARKEST HOUR” (Focus Features)
DENZEL WASHINGTON / Roman J. Israel, Esq. – “ROMAN J. ISRAEL, ESQ.” (Columbia Pictures)

Outstanding Performance by a Female Actor in a Supporting Role

MARY J. BLIGE / Florence Jackson – “MUDBOUND” (Netflix)
HONG CHAU / Ngoc Lan Tran – “DOWNSIZING” (Paramount Pictures)
HOLLY HUNTER / Beth – “THE BIG SICK” (Amazon Studios)
ALLISON JANNEY / LaVona Golden – “I, TONYA” (Neon)
LAURIE METCALF / Marion McPherson – “LADY BIRD” (A24)

Outstanding Performance by a Male Actor in a Supporting Role

STEVE CARELL / Bobby Riggs – “BATTLE OF THE SEXES” (Fox Searchlight)
WILLEM DAFOE / Bobby – “THE FLORIDA PROJECT” (A24)
WOODY HARRELSON / Willoughby – “THREE BILLBOARDS OUTSIDE EBBING, MISSOURI” (Fox Searchlight)
RICHARD JENKINS / Giles – “THE SHAPE OF WATER” (Fox Searchlight)
SAM ROCKWELL / Dixon – “THREE BILLBOARDS OUTSIDE EBBING, MISSOURI” (Fox Searchlight)

Outstanding Performance by a Cast in a Motion Picture

THE BIG SICK(Amazon Studios)
GET OUT(Universal Pictures)
LADY BIRD(A24)
MUDBOUND(Netflix)
THREE BILLBOARDS OUTSIDE EBBING, MISSOURI(Fox Searchlight)

Outstanding Action Performance by a Stunt Ensemble in a Motion Picture

“BABY DRIVER” (TriStar Pictures and MRC)
“DUNKIRK” (Warner Bros. Pictures)
“LOGAN” (20th Century Fox)
“WAR FOR THE PLANET OF THE APES” (20th Century Fox)
“WONDER WOMAN” (Warner Bros. Pictures)

The Television Nominees are:

Outstanding Performance by a Female Actor in a Television Movie or Limited Series

LAURA DERN / Renata Klein – “BIG LITTLE LIES” (HBO)
NICOLE KIDMAN / Celeste Wright – “BIG LITTLE LIES” (HBO)
JESSICA LANGE / Joan Crawford – “FEUD: BETTE AND JOAN” (FX Networks)
SUSAN SARANDON / Bette Davis – “FEUD: BETTE AND JOAN” (FX Networks)
REESE WITHERSPOON / Madeline MacKenzie – “BIG LITTLE LIES” (HBO)

Outstanding Performance by a Male Actor in a Television Movie or Limited Series

BENEDICT CUMBERBATCH / Sherlock Holmes – “SHERLOCK: THE LYING DETECTIVE” (WGBH/Masterpiece)
JEFF DANIELS / Frank Griffin – “GODLESS” (Netflix)
ROBERT DE NIRO / Bernie Madoff – “THE WIZARD OF LIES” (HBO)
GEOFFREY RUSH / Albert Einstein – “GENIUS” (National Geographic)
ALEXANDER SKARSGÅRD / Perry Wright – “BIG LITTLE LIES” (HBO)

Outstanding Performance by a Female Actor in a Drama Series

MILLIE BOBBY BROWN / Eleven – “STRANGER THINGS” (Netflix)
CLAIRE FOY / Queen Elizabeth II – “THE CROWN” (Netflix)
LAURA LINNEY / Wendy Byrde – “OZARK”(Netflix)
ELISABETH MOSS / Offred/June – “THE HANDMAID’S TALE” (Hulu)
ROBIN WRIGHT / Claire Underwood – “HOUSE OF CARDS”(Netflix)

Outstanding Performance by a Male Actor in a Drama Series

JASON BATEMAN / Martin “Marty” Byrde – “OZARK” (Netflix)
STERLING K. BROWN / Randall Pearson – “THIS IS US” (NBC)
PETER DINKLAGE / Tyrion Lannister – “GAME OF THRONES” (HBO)
DAVID HARBOUR / Jim Hopper – “STRANGER THINGS” (Netflix)
BOB ODENKIRK / Jimmy McGill/Saul Goodman – “BETTER CALL SAUL” (AMC)

Outstanding Performance by a Female Actor in a Comedy Series

UZO ADUBA / Suzanne “Crazy Eyes” Warren – “ORANGE IS THE NEW BLACK” (Netflix)
ALISON BRIE / Ruth Wilder – “GLOW” (Netflix)
JANE FONDA / Grace Hanson – “GRACE AND FRANKIE”(Netflix)
JULIA LOUIS-DREYFUS / Selina Meyer – “VEEP” (HBO)
LILY TOMLIN / Frankie Bergstein – “GRACE AND FRANKIE”(Netflix)

Outstanding Performance by a Male Actor in a Comedy Series

ANTHONY ANDERSON / Andre “Dre” Johnson – “BLACK-ISH” (ABC)
AZIZ ANSARI / Dev – “MASTER OF NONE” (Netflix)
LARRY DAVID / Himself – “CURB YOUR ENTHUSIASM” (HBO)
SEAN HAYES / Jack McFarland – “WILL & GRACE” (NBC)
WILLIAM H. MACY / Frank Gallagher – “SHAMELESS” (Showtime)
MARC MARON / Sam Sylvia – “GLOW” (Netflix)

Outstanding Performance by an Ensemble in a Drama Series

THE CROWN (Netflix)
GAME OF THRONES(HBO)
THE HANDMAID’S TALE(Hulu)
STRANGER THINGS (Netflix)
THIS IS US(NBC)

Outstanding Performance by an Ensemble in a Comedy Series

BLACK-ISH(ABC)
CURB YOUR ENTHUSIASM(HBO)
GLOW (Netflix)
ORANGE IS THE NEW BLACK (Netflix)
VEEP(HBO)

Outstanding Action Performance by a Stunt Ensemble in a Comedy or Drama Series

GAME OF THRONES (HBO)
GLOW (Netflix)
HOMELAND (Showtime)
STRANGER THINGS (Netflix)
THE WALKING DEAD (AMC)

[Ginger]

A lot of those TV series nominations are pretty stale. Curb Your Enthusiasm? Uzo Aduba again, even though she didn't really do much last season on OITNB? Robin Wright again? Yawn.

[Smilla]

I'm happy to see Bob Odenkirk pick up a nomination for his work on Better Call Saul. Somehow, I don't think he's going to get it, but I will be tickled pink if he does.

[Martini Girl]

Alison Janey deserves all the awards. (And I still can't believe Cumberbatch was nominated for that awful Sherlock! Martin was so much better too.)

[Smilla]

We just got back from Darkest Hour and I think Gary Oldman will get the Oscar for it. I didn't exactly love every minute of the movie, but he definitely managed to convince me he was Churchill.