Adele

[boxofrocks]

smoking is one of the worst things you can do to your body, because it robs the body of oxygen.
I have read most smokers don't die of lung cancer but of one of the hundreds of other things cigarettes do to you while you smoke.

Co-signing. A friend of mine who is a neurosurgeon said that the first week of med school, he was taught about a new disease every week. With one exception, every one had some sort of causal, risk-related link to smoking. The exception was endometrial cancer; smoking actually had a slight preventive effect. If you're a guy, you're out of luck. If you're a woman, well, the risk that every other part of your body is going to get messed up outweighs the slight benefits smoking has against that one disease.

Topic? I've head singers claim that they like the way smoking affects their voices. I think Charlotte Church, Britney Spears pre-breakdown, and Miley Cyrus have said this although I don't have citations off hand. It's true that smoking can create a raspiness that can lend itself well to pop and rock music styles. Adele does indeed have a raspy voice, but to the extent that smoking created or enhanced what was already there, I don't know (I haven't listened to any of her first album). But it doesn't take long to get hooked on cigs, and long-term, the raspy quality that was once so appealing actually takes over the voice at the expense of tone and clarity, not to mention actually impeding breathing. And those drawbacks are related only to the profession of singing, to say nothing over one's overall health.

[sjankis630]

That is funny, I thought all young actresses smoked. Either that or took Adderol if you know what I mean.
I will give Adele that though - she does not fit the typical young singer skinny role model and seems to be doing well despite it.

[Hamatron]

Fun fact: Paul McCarty recorded "Oh, Darling!" After a period of heavy smoking, because he wanted the song to have a rough, hard living bar lounge act sound to it.

Also, John Mellencamp smoked something like 4+ packs a day before his heart attack. (!!!)

But then... there are people like Whitney Houston who have wrecked their voices. Yeah, crack is different, but it's the smoking that is hard on the throat in general.

So, I guess Adele is in good company. Though, I can't think of a big-voice act that was known to chain-smoke. The people listed above aren't really known for their powerful voices (Whitney Houston aside, because we know how that ended).

[sjankis630]

Nat King Cole. fantastic voice, smoked about 3 packs a day. ironically he thought it made his voice sound better. He died of lung cancer @ 45.

[magazinewhore]

Okay, I never smoked regularly, but I was a regular social smoker and I loved it. I know it's bad and unhealthy, but when I was in my 20s and some of my 30s, nothing was more fun than having a drink and a cigarette. Honestly, it's kind of gross the next day, but when you first start smoking, it's fun, you get a buzz or head rush from it and it's great for those of us who are insecure because it makes you feel cool and gives you something to do with your hands.

I was never an every day smoker and I never got hooked, which I know is rare. I had to stop because I'd get terrible migraines if I even had a drag of one. My husband is currently trying to quit smoking and is having a hell of a time. I don't know if it did any longterm damage to my body. I'm just saying as a habit it's kind of a luxurious one despite being bad for you.

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Oct 8, 2011 14:17:04 GMT -4 Malle Babbe said:

Oct 7, 2011 22:10:31 GMT -4 @roisin54 said:

I just will never understand how anyone in my age group smokes, considering we grew up knowing that smoking is bad for you. Is it really just because it looks cool? I'd seriously like to know, as a 29-year-old who's never smoked I have no freaking clue why sucking a toxic chemical cloud into ones lungs and holding it there has any appeal to anyone.

It's not just you. I'm a 36 year old and I don't get it. Then again, I grew up in a family of non-smokers (no role models making it seem normal), and have allergies (forget the lung cancer, it is the itchiness that puts me off) so I had more deterrents than others growing up.

I have allergies too. My mom smoked while pregnant but she quit when I was 4, and while my dad didn't quit until I was 12 he stopped smoking around me and my brother when my mom quit. So I have no memory of my parents smoking. I have an uncle who smokes so much that his facial hair is tinged yellow. It's gross.

I had an aunt who had a serious four pack a day habit her entire adult life, her and her apartment smelled awful. Whenever we stayed over there everything we had, even stuff that never left our suitcases, would reek of smoke and have to be aired out. She died at 57, she had metastatic lung cancer and pretty much every smoking related illness you can get, and she smoked all the way to the end. We were relieved more than sad when she died. I think she's a big part of why I never even wanted to try smoking.

[mrspickles]

Slightly OT- a friend of mine went to visit his 96 year old grandfather in the nursing home, and he thought it was really pretty stupid that the staff kicked him out for bringing grandpa beer and cigs. Friend kind of thought that, if the guy had already made it to 96 he deserved to have those things if he wanted too.

Adele? I really love 21 and marvel at how some young British women are able to really connect with their soul while many Americans seem to need a little more time to mature (I'm thinking mainly of Jennifer Hudson and some of the other Idol contestants compared to Adele, Joss Stone, Alison Moyet, Dusty Springfield) This is not meant to be a comment on talent or range, but the actual soulful quality of their singing and I don't know enough about singing to be able to explain that very clearly, so I hope I'm not offending anyone.

[cruising]

Nat King Cole. fantastic voice, smoked about 3 packs a day. ironically he thought it made his voice sound better. He died of lung cancer @ 45.

Well, back in Cole's day, smoking was promoted as a healthy thing to do.

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Oct 9, 2011 0:33:48 GMT -4 mrspickles said:

Slightly OT- a friend of mine went to visit his 96 year old grandfather in the nursing home, and he thought it was really pretty stupid that the staff kicked him out for bringing grandpa beer and cigs. Friend kind of thought that, if the guy had already made it to 96 he deserved to have those things if he wanted to.

Perhaps the staff does not want to breathe in the carcinogenic, second-hand smoke in their work environment (they have a legal right to this), or perhaps they do not want the other patients to be forced to breathe in that shit, especially because not all patients in a nursing home are mobile and would not be able to move away from the smoke. I think it is incredibly selfish of people to smoke in communal spaces. Sorry to seem harsh, but people ignoring anti-smoking laws realky bothers me.

In the EU, 70,000 people a year die from second-hand smoke. I think the staff was simply protecting themselves and their patients.

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Perhaps the staff does not want to breathe in the carcinogenic, second-hand smoke in their work environment (they have a legal right to this), or perhaps they do not want the other patients to be forced to breathe in that shit, especially because not all patients in a nursing home are mobile and would not be able to move away from the smoke. I think it is incredibly selfish of people to smoke in communal spaces. Sorry to seem harsh, but people ignoring anti-smoking laws realky bothers me.

Huh. This reminds me of a character's reaction to public smoking on American Horror Story this week.

As for the topic of this thread: I was prepared to pay big bucks to see her this tour. Glad I didn't shell out the cash.