Armie Hammer

[cancan]

Aug 11, 2022 2:56:59 GMT -4 cremetangerine82 said:

Not in prison (or eaten anyone...yet), but there's a new documentary on his wealthy and FUBAR family.

That we know of

[cremetangerine82]

Aug 11, 2022 11:37:18 GMT -4 cancan said:

Aug 11, 2022 2:56:59 GMT -4 cremetangerine82 said:

Not in prison (or eaten anyone...yet), but there's a new documentary on his wealthy and FUBAR family.

That we know of

Yeah, that's a great (and horrifying) point. Vanity Fair's article on the Hammers is worth a read.

[boricuamusicfan]

Holy shit. Hammer is really trying hard to concoct a redemption arc to his story that puts the blame on others for the effed up **ckery he did. Warning: this read might make you angry.

Armie Hammer Says He Was Sexually Abused by Youth Pastor at 13, Contemplated Suicide After Rape Allegation:The actor speaks out, two years after he was accused of sexually and emotionally abusing multiple women[

[scarlet]

Well, you warned me, but, yeah, the rage I feel after reading that. Oh, the whole thing is you were just "an asshole," and these women, who could've just been "happy to be with" saw it as an imbalance of power? Also, dropping the whole "boo hoo, cancel culture and the woke mob don't allow for rehabilitation." God, fuck him.

Worst thing is, as the picture Variety used for the story states (that had to be an intentional choice), he's a white man, so this redemption tour will probably work.

[Auroranorth]

Yeah, no, Arnie. You being abused as a teenager is not an excuse for committing multiple sexual assaults, and saying you were an asshole is a defense that lacks gravitas, to say the least.

[featherhat]

Assuming for the sake of his argument that this is true, it would only ever be an *explanation* for part of his abuse (cycle of abuse) but never an excuse. Abused kids who go on to abuse other kids or grow up to be adults who abuse kids are still held responsible for their own crimes. Even some of the child brides of Warren Jeffs who held down other child brides for him to rape as he had raped them before.

If they saw you has having all the power it is because you deliberately picked women/girls who felt they were powerless against a billionheir (notice he specifically talked in his texts about not being able to do this stuff with his rich wife) and made sure they knew it rather than putting their minds at rest he was a deliberate asshole. He assaulted women because he wanted to and he could. He could have had plenty of consensual extra marital sex if he had wanted, he could even have gone to people/places where he could have explored his kinks safely and got the best therapists money could by to live in with him if he needed but he apparently chose not to do that.

It might work but the public wasn't really sold on Hammer before all this stuff (10 years of trying to make Armie Hammer happen) and he wasn't that bankable so I don't see him suddenly getting decent roles again. Plus I think the cannibal fantasy stuff skeeves a lot of people out more than straight up rape claims sad to say.

[Ladybug]

Interview with his ex-wife, Elizabeth Chambers.

On being locked up with him in the Cayman Islands during the pandemic, when the marriage ended:

To Chambers, his behavior was less caged animal and more irritating. “He was the worst,” she says.

The marriage had been tested before—by distance, by fame, and by infidelity. The nail in the coffin was Hammer’s decision early in the pandemic to leave Chambers and the kids in the Caymans and head back to California, where he helped a friend restore an old motel outside Joshua Tree National Park. “My heart was broken in nine million pieces, and I still drove him to the airport,” Chambers says.

On finding out her ex was abusing women and had a disturbing fetish:

Hammer was being accused by multiple women of emotional manipulation. “I was learning things as the public was,” Chambers says. “I was like, ‘There are no words. What the fuck?’ ”

As Chambers tried to piece together her ex’s secret sex life in realtime, her sister Catherine says his accusers were in her DMs asking questions she didn’t have answers to. “It was all still so new to her,” Catherine says. “She put on her support hat to be there for these women who had gone through terrible, terrible situations that were brought on by her former husband, but Elizabeth chose to be there for them rather than for herself first. She listened to horrible, deep, dark details regardless of what it meant for her own life.”

Chambers addressed the allegations on Instagram in February 2021, offering support for “any victim of assault or abuse.” Her post opened the floodgates, and some commenters began to question how much she knew—or why she didn’t say something sooner. “A lot of people only saw her as Armie Hammer’s wife, and she’s always been [more than that],” Catherine Chambers says about her sister.

She seems to be doing better and has a 26-year-old triathlete boyfriend in the Caymans. She wishes the best for Armie.

“I support Armie through his journey and I always will,” Chambers says. “All I’ve ever wanted is for him to be sober, healthy, and happy. And he is that. He’s really present when he’s with the kids, and that’s all I can hope for. All you want is for your children to have two solid parents, right? That’s always the goal, so anything I can do to support that, I will.”

[peace47]

I only read those interview excerpts in the post above (not the whole interview), but there’s a lot of cognitive dissonance in Chambers saying she was listening to horrific stories of abuse from Hammer’s victims but he’s good with their kids. I mean, I get that parents generally don’t lose custody unless they are directly abusing their kids so she probably doesn’t have a ton of choice, but how as a parent do you ever feel comfortable leaving the kids alone with someone who is so (allegedly) twisted? Maybe, since he apparently always left at first opportunity, he doesn’t spend much time with them, but damn.

[Ladybug]

Feb 13, 2023 1:50:56 GMT -4 peace47 said:

I only read those interview excerpts in the post above (not the whole interview), but there’s a lot of cognitive dissonance in Chambers saying she was listening to horrific stories of abuse from Hammer’s victims but he’s good with their kids. I mean, I get that parents generally don’t lose custody unless they are directly abusing their kids so she probably doesn’t have a ton of choice, but how as a parent do you ever feel comfortable leaving the kids alone with someone who is so (allegedly) twisted? Maybe, since he apparently always left at first opportunity, he doesn’t spend much time with them, but damn.

I honestly don't think he sees them that much. I follow her on IG and while not every second of their lives is documented, she puts her kids on there a lot. They're busy kids and have a large circle of friends and people in their lives. She did not get into details of his contact with them, but there could also be conditions on it like maybe he has supervised visitation, or they stay with his parents (who are still in the Caymans I think) on his visitation weekends. I think she's trying to put a better spin on it but he does not appear to be a very involved parent.

[cremetangerine82]

I'm glad he may have limited or supervised child visitation. Remember the creepy video where his let his son suck his toes?
Great, now I feel unclean again...