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Post by angelaudie on Jan 17, 2012 16:54:47 GMT -4
The body being Moriarty's would make the most sense. My guess while Sherlock has been dead he's been working to dismantle Moriarty's empire and find evidence to prove Moriarty actually existed. Once he does that he'll make plans to resurface. Though, again, I would love it John realized on his own that Sherlock faked his death. You know it would make Sherlock proud if John realized it on his own! Granted he'll probably make some snarky comment about how long it took but he would be secretly proud.
The other thing I realized is the finale basically confirmed that Sherlock truly does care about Lestrade. After all, why would Moriarty target Lestrade unless Sherlock cared about him. He could have easily just stopped with John and Mrs. Hudson.
TWOP has been speculating about possibly bringing Mary, the future Mrs. Watson, in next season. Some are against it completely while others are more open to it. I'm open to the idea but it would have to be done right. Obviously, I wouldn't want her to start tagging along on Sherlock and John's adventures but she work as a background character. But I would want to see the relationship from the beginning. I don't want S3 opening on their wedding.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2012 17:07:29 GMT -4
John's proven himself to be a spectacularly good friend and a spectacularly bad boyfriend and at the end of the tale so far is as broken as he was in S01E01. I hope for everyone's sake he's not getting married in S03E01!
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Post by Malle Babbe on Jan 17, 2012 18:02:59 GMT -4
Especially if the writers make Mary's not-entirely-unreasonable irritation with Sherlock grabbing John for cases as an excuse to make her a nagging stereotype.
I haven't seen Game of Shadows yet, but I did like the Mary that they had in the first Ritchie movie. To spend a lot of time overseas as a governess in that era wasn't a job for someone who didn't have her act together, and liked her scene in which she spotted Holmes in the hospital and told him to put aside his guilt over getting Watson hurt and get cracking on the case.
I will say that the one thing that the BBC version has over ACD is that in "The Empty House" Holmes is a bit flip when telling Watson where he was and why he chose to contact Mycroft rather than him. While John will have a reason to be shocked and angry, I want to see his reaction when he's told that Sherlock did it to keep him, Mrs. Hudson and Lestrade alive. Surely with his combat experience, he'll appreciate Sherlock throwing himself on the grenade, so to speak.
I also love the in-universe acknowledgement that deerstalkers are kind of goofy-looking, and are something that you wear when hunting out in the woods, and not meant for daywear in the city. The modern equivalent would be some unfortunate combination of forest camo and blaze orange.
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Post by robneville on Jan 17, 2012 20:14:09 GMT -4
The body on the sidewalk being Moriarty doesn't really make much sense. Sherlock talked to Molly, said he needed her help and later sent a message to Moriarty to meet him on the roof, he was already planning his fake death by jumping and had Molly help get a corpse and dress it in matching Sherlock clothes. The corpse was already chosen, he had now way of knowing Moriarty would kill himself and therefore wasn't planning on using his body. It wasn't some plan he made up on the spot after Moriarty fortuitously shot himself.
As for the jump it really becomes clear what they did when you watch it again and see the logistics of the place. John isn't standing right in front of the building with an unimpeded view. There's a small one story building between him and the building Sherlock is on and he has to walk around it to get to Sherlock which is what he was about to do when Sherlock stops him and tells him to " focus on me." While Sherlock is falling ( on to a truck, presumably ) John is walking around the impeding building. I assume when they show how it was done next year they will pull back and show the entire place, making it clear John never had a clear view of what was going on.
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Post by Malle Babbe on Jan 17, 2012 20:37:15 GMT -4
Fans on Tumblr are going over the jump scene like the Zapruder film right now.
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Post by Augustus on Jan 17, 2012 21:20:46 GMT -4
Countless of theories are going around now, it really is a small frenzy. I don't think I've seen so much activity around a finale. And the cliffhanger isn't even whether or not the protagonist is dead or alive, for we all know the answer to that, but HOW did he do it?! Heee, I like that fact.
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Post by kostgard on Jan 17, 2012 21:35:31 GMT -4
The body on the sidewalk being Moriarty doesn't really make much sense. Sherlock talked to Molly, said he needed her help and later sent a message to Moriarty to meet him on the roof, he was already planning his fake death by jumping and had Molly help get a corpse and dress it in matching Sherlock clothes. The corpse was already chosen, he had now way of knowing Moriarty would kill himself and therefore wasn't planning on using his body. It wasn't some plan he made up on the spot after Moriarty fortuitously shot himself. That's all true. I'm just throwing it out there because no one other than Sherlock seems to be aware that Moriarty blew his brains out (no one mentioning finding his dead body). So it makes me wonder what the hell he did with it.
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Post by Witchie on Jan 17, 2012 21:43:29 GMT -4
I think it's telling that Moriarty's death wasn't mentioned. Now, it could be because the press & police know him as the creepy children's actor & therefore, not as important as Sherlock, but...I don't know. I'm still in shock about his suicide, to be quite honest. I know that was his trump move, but it also seemed kinda defeatist for someone as dastardly as Moriarty.
I wonder how much time will have past when we return. I don't want John married. I would wonder if he married Mary because he was lonely & not because he loved her. I want him in a better place when he finally proposes to her.
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Post by MrsCatHead on Jan 17, 2012 21:47:22 GMT -4
Yeah, it's unlikely Moriarty cuz that seemed unexpected (him shooting himself in the head). Oh well. It was a thought. I'm enjoying not really speculating but it will be hard to wait for S3!
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Post by kostgard on Jan 17, 2012 21:50:07 GMT -4
Here's the news report from John's blog. They talk about Moriarty's trial and the Richard Brook stuff, but nothing about his death. So I'm guessing his body somehow disappeared. It's just a question of who made it disappear. The scroll on the newscast mentions a couple of past cases too.
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