Melissa Etheridge

[canuckcutie]

I find it ironic that Melissa who is alive due to the wonders of modern medicine and chemotherapy doesn't feel that her children deserve to have the ability to protect themselves from deadly diseases due to the wonders of vaccines.

Anyone here have any idea how courts would resolve an issue on which two parents are so diametrically opposed? I mean if one parent wants the vaccine and the other doesn't then one parent has to win because doing nothing means the anti-vaccine parent wins. If she's anti-vaccine is she also anti-flu shot? Because kids die from the fly every year. Frankly I'd want to protect my kids as much as possible and that would include protecting them from diseases which could kill or seriously impair them.

[Auroranorth]

Sept 2, 2013 19:29:41 GMT -4 canuckcutie said:

I find it ironic that Melissa who is alive due to the wonders of modern medicine and chemotherapy doesn't feel that her children deserve to have the ability to protect themselves from deadly diseases due to the wonders of vaccines.

Word. She's a hypocrite as well as an idiot.

Anyone here have any idea how courts would resolve an issue on which two parents are so diametrically opposed? I mean if one parent wants the vaccine and the other doesn't then one parent has to win because doing nothing means the anti-vaccine parent wins. If she's anti-vaccine is she also anti-flu shot? Because kids die from the flu every year. Frankly I'd want to protect my kids as much as possible and that would include protecting them from diseases which could kill or seriously impair them.

I just ran across this case where the mother, who was religiously anti-vax, got to make the call because she was the parent with primary responsibility. So that precedent might work in Tammy's favor, because she's the one taking care of the kids on a daily basis. Also, the courts tend to feel that vaccinating is in the best interest of the child.

[Mugsy]

I always wonder if anti-fax parents vaccinate their pets.

Because if they do, then I'd argue (as a pro vax) that they care more about their pet's well-being than their children's. and I could also play devil's advocate and argue that they must not love their pet if they would vax it. So they can't win. Especially if their unvaccinated pet has an encounter with a rabid animal.

If ME's anti-support argument was that she's not their parent anyway (due to being not married) then that is cold. Her kids are going to read that someday. Who gives a shit if they are your bio kids or that you married their mom? You raised them, lived with them all their lives, don't you CARE about them? Gawd.

[Ninja Bunny]

No, it's obvious she doesn't care about them. At all. She didn't want to bother paying for their support and now she's trying to deny them lifesaving health care just so she can stick it to her ex. She's an evil, selfish pig who never should have adopted children at all. She's no real parent.

[Yossarian]

There was a baby in my mother's group who couldn't be vaccinated for the first year of her life. She was premature and was born with an exposed ulcer on the length of her calf. She could not be vaccinated because her immune system was so compromised at birth. That kid depended on the rest of us providing herd immunity for her! It makes me so angry to think that some "I know better than the medical community" idiot would willingly expose that little girl to deadly diseases because of their wilful ignorance.

Topic: who would have thought that Melissa would turn out this way?

[prisma]

Sept 3, 2013 22:00:53 GMT -4 Yossarian said:

Topic: who would have thought that Melissa would turn out this way?

Not me. I was never a fan of her music really but I had this idea that she was a down-to-Earth person. I think my goodwill toward her had to do a lot with this Rolling Stone cover, which seemed to open up public discussion of gay families in a positive way. She seemed brave. And things have come a long way since 2000, when that cover appeared. I wonder if she was always a humorless, self-important ogre or if she just became one with age.

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I remember that article. I was so impressed with them. I wonder what Julie Cypher thinks about all of this nonsense?

[Oxynia]

If she's anti-vaccine is she also anti-flu shot? Because kids die from the fly every year.

I'm picturing a ginormous fly on a Santa-like mission, visiting children all over the world and dropping germs on them in their sleep.

I always wonder if anti-fax parents vaccinate their pets.

I'm rather anti-fax myself, in this era of digital communications, and my dogs are current on all their shots.

The type-o's in this thread are making the discussion all the more interesting.

Seriously though, this is a distressing topic and someone with ME's medical history should know better. My kids are in public schools and we have had to give the administration proof of immunization when they first entered a new school.  It's a NYC health requirement.  We can't even board our dogs at the kennel without proof of rabies, bordatella and various other shots, which have to be repeated annually.  It never occurred to us to not vaccinate them (kids or pets), and the thought of being responsible for another living soul yet putting them at risk for the sake of one's own moral elitism is disturbing.

Wasn't this the subject of a Law & Order:SVU episode from long ago? I remember a case where an unvaccinated child in a playground infected another child who later died. The mother believed vaccines do more harm than good.  I think the charge was negligent homicide or something short of murder.

It's an interesting discussion and as long as the thread remains civil, we'll allow this slightly off-topic conversation to continue.

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Sept 2, 2013 11:08:25 GMT -4 eclair said:

Sorry about your brother, sabbath.

Thanks.

I had a very dear friend who had breast cancer, she fought bravely for 11 years before she lost her battle, as a group of friends we did our best to stay healthy for her, had a our flu shots and boosters for measles, whooping cough and so on.
Now what irks me with Melissa is she survived her chemo because she didn't come into contact with any diseases because most of the population is vaccinated.
I just checked these kids out and I was expecting infants, these are grown children, I suppose better late than never, am I correct that Tammy only wants them vaccinated so they can go to school, well she's not a much better mother then either.

[Mugsy]

But they don't have to be vaccinated to attend school, if they have some sort of valid objection, and who can prove if someone's opinions or beliefs are valid? So I wonder if she is using school as an excuse, and wanted them vaxed all along. (Stupid auto correct changed vaxed to faxed again, which is kind of amusing)

Mentioning boosters is important, because adults should have all their basic vaccines boosted every 10 years.