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Post by kostgard on Nov 19, 2017 22:33:13 GMT -4
Yeah, I’ve seen people knock her for serving in the Israeli army, but isn’t that a requirement if you’re an Israeli Jew? I can’t knock her for something that wasn’t a choice. And it isn’t like she goes around making anti-Palestine statements. She’s from a complicated part of the world and that’s not her fault.
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Post by riosamba on Nov 19, 2017 22:54:25 GMT -4
Yeah, I’ve seen people knock her for serving in the Israeli army, but isn’t that a requirement if you’re an Israeli Jew? I can’t knock her for something that wasn’t a choice. And it isn’t like she goes around making anti-Palestine statements. She’s from a complicated part of the world and that’s not her fault. Yes. There are various exceptions ( being Christian, Muslim, or Arab, for example), but about 75% of young Israeli citizens serve. I'm not a Gal expert (though I love everything I know so far), but as far as I know she would not have qualified for an exemption. Many who are exempted serve in alternative areas. |
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Post by boricuamusicfan on Dec 5, 2017 10:48:32 GMT -4
I ADORE her (and not just because she played the first ever big-screen version of my all-time favorite comic book character; I say first version because, with the character finally and successfully becoming the gigantic movie property that it deserved to be, I am sure that WB will continue making Wonder Woman films long after Gal is gone). I find her incredibly charming and sweet; at least that's what she conveys, which is a huge part of why her performance as Wonder Woman was so lauded. She is not a great technical actress [not yet], but I'll be darned if she did not charm the pants off audiences in Wonder Woman. I am still nervous as to what happens with the overall DC Extended [Film] Universe (by now we all know that Justice League is a critical and financial underperformer), but seeing how Wonder Woman is the only DCEU movie so far to have gigantic box office as well as rave reviews (Man of Steel, Batman V Superman, and Suicide Squad were all box office giants, but they all received awful reviews), it's pretty much a given that Warner Bros. will follow through with a potential Wonder Woman trilogy starring Gal Gadot. At least the sequel is all set to open on November 1, 2019. And I cannot fricking wait!!!
By the way...did anyone catch Gal as Marky Mark's lover in Date Night?
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Post by americanchai on Dec 5, 2017 12:32:12 GMT -4
I reluctantly watched Wonder Woman yesterday and really liked Gal. The movie CGI was awful and the villains lame but she was excellent. As a hardcore '70s child-Lynda-Carter-ite, Gal turned me. I didn't know she was in some of the Fast and the Furious movies also (only seen the first one, hated it).
(I also really loved Lucy Davis's very tiny comic turn. She could be the next Imelda Staunton with what I assume is fat-padding(?).)
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Post by kostgard on Dec 5, 2017 14:47:44 GMT -4
Has anyone seen Justice League? I haven't because the trailers gave me zero desire to see it (after all the WW trailers had me going, "Yay! Can't wait!" the JL trailers had me thinking, "Meh. It'll show up on HBO eventually...") and I was wondering if the disconnect between WW and the rest of the DCEU continued.
What I mean by that is in Batman v Superman, Diana checked out on humanity after WWI and didn't get back into the game until the events of that movie. Yet at the end of WW, while she was heartbroken over her loss, it gave the impression that she absolutely did not check out on humanity (she ends it by saying that she believes in love and the power of love to do good and change things). My favorite commentary on that was Patty Jenkins must have watched BvS and said, "I don't understand the question, and I refuse to answer" and then did her own thing. I just wondered if JL went back to the whole "she checked out" idea. I've heard mixed things in general about how Diana was handled in JL - some critics said she was the best thing, others said she basically had nothing to do, and overall those movies don't seem to benefit her character all that well. I think if WB is smart, they will just let WW continue in her own universe and let Gal and Patty Jenkins dictate what happens. They actually seem to know what they are doing with this character.
I agree that it was Gal's warmth and charm that really sold the character (though her acting performance was stronger than I expected it to be). I read a comment on her recently where someone said that she just has the most open face, and like, she's the most beautiful person you'd feel comfortable just approaching and asking for directions because she seems so open and approachable (and like she'd totally help you with those directions). I think that's largely why she made the perfect WW.
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Post by Witchie on Dec 5, 2017 15:14:22 GMT -4
Has anyone seen Justice League? I haven't because the trailers gave me zero desire to see it (after all the WW trailers had me going, "Yay! Can't wait!" the JL trailers had me thinking, "Meh. It'll show up on HBO eventually...") and I was wondering if the disconnect between WW and the rest of the DCEU continued. What I mean by that is in Batman v Superman, Diana checked out on humanity after WWI and didn't get back into the game until the events of that movie. Yet at the end of WW, while she was heartbroken over her loss, it gave the impression that she absolutely did not check out on humanity (she ends it by saying that she believes in love and the power of love to do good and change things). My favorite commentary on that was Patty Jenkins must have watched BvS and said, "I don't understand the question, and I refuse to answer" and then did her own thing. I just wondered if JL went back to the whole "she checked out" idea. I've heard mixed things in general about how Diana was handled in JL - some critics said she was the best thing, others said she basically had nothing to do, and overall those movies don't seem to benefit her character all that well. I think if WB is smart, they will just let WW continue in her own universe and let Gal and Patty Jenkins dictate what happens. They actually seem to know what they are doing with this character. I agree that it was Gal's warmth and charm that really sold the character (though her acting performance was stronger than I expected it to be). I read a comment on her recently where someone said that she just has the most open face, and like, she's the most beautiful person you'd feel comfortable just approaching and asking for directions because she seems so open and approachable (and like she'd totally help you with those directions). I think that's largely why she made the perfect WW. Saw JL. Diana admits to checking out after she lost Steve. Even the events in BvS didn’t move her to become more involved with the world. It’s not until JL that she decides she’s hidden away long enough. |
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Post by Ladybug on Dec 5, 2017 15:27:02 GMT -4
I'm wondering how Wonder Woman 2 will fit into that timeline. She checks out, briefly checks back in, then checks out again until Bruce Wayne/JL come along.
I'm not too invested in the DC vs. Marvel thing, but it really does seem like Marvel has it's sh-t together regarding how their movies connect with each other. I guess this filmmaking strategy is still relatively new, but it doesn't seem like DC have planned very well at all.
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Post by boricuamusicfan on Dec 5, 2017 16:35:48 GMT -4
I agree that it was Gal's warmth and charm that really sold the character (though her acting performance was stronger than I expected it to be). I read a comment on her recently where someone said that she just has the most open face, and like, she's the most beautiful person you'd feel comfortable just approaching and asking for directions because she seems so open and approachable (and like she'd totally help you with those directions). I think that's largely why she made the perfect WW. I concur 100 %. She actually reminded me (and plenty of people have said this) of Christopher Reeve in the way she embodied the character; just like Reeve's Superman, Gadot made Diana/Wonder Woman a compellingly naive charmer that captivated the audience and took it along on her journey. Zach Snyder may not be the perfect director for these iconic DC characters, but he fricking killed it with his casting of Gal Gadot ---he made the final casting decision, choosing Gadot out of the final three actresses up for the role: Gadot, Elodie Yung ( G.I. Joe: Retaliation; Netflix's Daredevil), and Olga Kurylenko ("Quantum of Solace"). And of course, Patty Jenkins NAILED the tone for the film: not a joke-a-thon like the typical Marvel movie, but not the gloom-n-doom dirge that DC films tend to be. She struck a perfect balance of wide-eyed innocent fish-out-of-water story, wartime romance, and action/adventure superhero flick. The film was way overdue, of course, and it had immense political relevance that helped it become a pop culture phenomenon, but it also happened to be a solidly crafted story that really connected with audiences on a very basic level: it was the hero's journey that we have seen a million times before but starring an iconic character that we had never seen on the big screen before (solo). It had heart. It was the kind of "cheesy" entertainment that would not work if not for the right person at its center, and Gadot was indeed the perfect actress to sell the character's heroism, wide-eyed innocence, and sincerity. I have to admit that I bawled my eyes out the first time I saw the film at the theatre. It was such a powerfully emotional thing to FINALLY see my childhood idol come alive on the big screen. |
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Post by FiggyPudding on Dec 5, 2017 18:39:35 GMT -4
By the way...did anyone catch Gal as Marky Mark's lover in Date Night? That’s the only other thing I know her from (still can’t bring myself to see BvS even though it’s been on HBO a thousand times). She was good (and memorable) in a very small, stereotypical role. |
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Post by riosamba on Dec 5, 2017 19:02:54 GMT -4
I agree that it was Gal's warmth and charm that really sold the character (though her acting performance was stronger than I expected it to be). I read a comment on her recently where someone said that she just has the most open face, and like, she's the most beautiful person you'd feel comfortable just approaching and asking for directions because she seems so open and approachable (and like she'd totally help you with those directions). I think that's largely why she made the perfect WW. I concur 100 %. She actually reminded me (and plenty of people have said this) of Christopher Reeve in the way she embodied the character; just like Reeve's Superman, Gadot made Diana/Wonder Woman a compellingly naive charmer that captivated the audience and took it along on her journey. Zach Snyder may not be the perfect director for these iconic DC characters, but he fricking killed it with his casting of Gal Gadot ---he made the final casting decision, choosing Gadot out of the final three actresses up for the role: Gadot, Elodie Yung ( G.I. Joe: Retaliation; Netflix's Daredevil), and Olga Kurylenko ("Quantum of Solace"). And of course, Patty Jenkins NAILED the tone for the film: not a joke-a-thon like the typical Marvel movie, but not the gloom-n-doom dirge that DC films tend to be. She struck a perfect balance of wide-eyed innocent fish-out-of-water story, wartime romance, and action/adventure superhero flick. The film was way overdue, of course, and it had immense political relevance that helped it become a pop culture phenomenon, but it also happened to be a solidly crafted story that really connected with audiences on a very basic level: it was the hero's journey that we have seen a million times before but starring an iconic character that we had never seen on the big screen before (solo). It had heart. It was the kind of "cheesy" entertainment that would not work if not for the right person at its center, and Gadot was indeed the perfect actress to sell the character's heroism, wide-eyed innocence, and sincerity. I have to admit that I bawled my eyes out the first time I saw the film at the theatre. It was such a powerfully emotional thing to FINALLY see my childhood idol come alive on the big screen. I’m imagining the awesomeness of Gal as WonderWoman with Christopher Reeve as Superman. Tears! |
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