Current Events IV: All The News That Fits

[discoprincess]

DEATH INVESTIGATION
Family: 30-year-old Navy vet died after Northern California police placed knee on his neck

A Navy veteran who was going through an episode of paranoia died after a Northern California police officer knelt on his neck for several minutes, his family said Tuesday.

The family of Angelo Quinto called police on Dec. 23 because the 30-year-old was suffering a mental health crisis and needed help. His family says a responding officer knelt on Quinto's neck for nearly five minutes while another officer restrained his legs. Quinto lost consciousness and was taken by ambulance to a hospital, where he died three days later.

It's a shame (but not surprising) that these incidents keep happening.

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{Spoiler}On a side note, the man who passed away was Filipino.

[Ladybug]

This has been a big topic of discussion of women in the UK this week. Women share their fears of walking alone in the wake of the kidnap and murder of Sarah Everard. Her remains have been found and a London police officer with diplomatic security duty has been arrested in connection with her murder. He was a guard at the US Embassy.

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I know even in my small town I’m hyper aware when walking home alone every bit as much when I lived in Dublin.


Jess Phillips reads list of UK women killed in last year
In there too are the words along with her children, daughter, son... utterly chilling
I can’t imagine the horror each and everyone were subjected to.

[Ladybug]

I recently watched a documentary about UK serial killer Peter Sutcliffe, also known as the Yorkshire Ripper, and the level of misogyny and sexism seen in the killer and the police investigators was infuriating. The stories about women's reactions to Everard's murder reminded me of the that case.

[Mugsy]

I hate these names that the media and/or police give serial killers. It's a badge of honour for them to get a special name; a killer among killers.

A couple years ago a guy ran his van along a sidewalk in Toronto, killing several people and injuring even more. He was a self-proclaimed incel and his defence lawyer tried to use "he's autistic and doesn't know how to behave normally" as a desperate tactic. It didn't work (and pissed off the autism community) and he was found guilty. The interesting part is that the judge chose to not use his name, citing how his type revel in their fame so she wasn't going to give it to him. She referred to him throughout sentencing as John Doe. She said she couldn't make the media follow her lead, but encouraged it.

[MrsOldManBalls]

Mar 12, 2021 9:41:44 GMT -4 Mugsy said:

I hate these names that the media and/or police give serial killers. It's a badge of honour for them to get a special name; a killer among killers.

A couple years ago a guy ran his van along a sidewalk in Toronto, killing several people and injuring even more. He was a self-proclaimed incel and his defence lawyer tried to use "he's autistic and doesn't know how to behave normally" as a desperate tactic. It didn't work (and pissed off the autism community) and he was found guilty. The interesting part is that the judge chose to not use his name, citing how his type revel in their fame so she wasn't going to give it to him. She referred to him throughout sentencing as John Doe. She said she couldn't make the media follow her lead, but encouraged it.

He was sentenced in the last week or two, wasn’t he?

[prisma]

Mar 11, 2021 15:15:07 GMT -4 Ladybug said:

I recently watched a documentary about UK serial killer Peter Sutcliffe, also known as the Yorkshire Ripper, and the level of misogyny and sexism seen in the killer and the police investigators was infuriating. The stories about women's reactions to Everard's murder reminded me of the that case.

I watched this recently too and meant to post about it. The misogyny was jaw dropping. Because so many of the early victims were prostitutes they were written off like they deserved it. I realized how much my PhD from the University of Law and Order had taught me, because early on the police kept talking about the killer was someone who hated prostitutes and I kept saying, "No, he hates WOMEN!" It was like the police viewed him as someone doing extreme cleanup by ridding the city of prostitutes. But, no, he was someone who just hated women and prostitutes were easier to come by.

Watching it I initially felt like things were worse in Britain, but it was probably more a reflection of the times. When I watched the HBO doc on the Golden State killer, I will never forget the police commenting, after one of the early rape attacks, that other than the rape the attacker hadn't done anything. I wish I could remember the exact words. It was implying that the women were not shot or stabbed so no big deal. The fact that they were sexually penetrated against their will really wasn't a big deal. So that was the prevailing sentiment at a similar time in the United States.

[Ladybug]

Nov 18, 2005 14:33:27 GMT -4 prisma said:

I watched this recently too and meant to post about it. The misogyny was jaw dropping. Because so many of the early victims were prostitutes they were written off like they deserved it. I realized how much my PhD from the University of Law and Order had taught me, because early on the police kept talking about the killer was someone who hated prostitutes and I kept saying, "No, he hates WOMEN!" It was like the police viewed him as someone doing extreme cleanup by ridding the city of prostitutes. But, no, he was someone who just hated women and prostitutes were easier to come by.

Yes, and the fact that they kept focusing on prostitutes prevented them from connecting attacks on other women to the suspect. I think it was even cloudy if some of the women were actually prostitutes, but their circumstances as poor single mothers made the police automatically assume they were. It was really sad.

[canuckcutie]

The Sarah Everard case is so sad. It’s infuriating the mental calculations we have to do as women on a daily basis to weigh the risk of situations.

I live in a small city, close enough to my downtown core to walk to it and yet as soon as it’s dark I don’t walk. There’s that little voice of doubt that something could happen to me as a single woman out walking solo in the dark. Not to mention the public flogging that would occur if something were to happen to me - what was she thinking walking by herself after dark!!

It’s exhausting to not be able to just do what you want at times - to always have to overthink. Am I safer on the streets than I am in an Uber being driven by a stranger?

[Mugsy]

Mar 12, 2021 9:53:16 GMT -4 MrsOldManBalls said:

Mar 12, 2021 9:41:44 GMT -4 Mugsy said:

I hate these names that the media and/or police give serial killers. It's a badge of honour for them to get a special name; a killer among killers.

A couple years ago a guy ran his van along a sidewalk in Toronto, killing several people and injuring even more. He was a self-proclaimed incel and his defence lawyer tried to use "he's autistic and doesn't know how to behave normally" as a desperate tactic. It didn't work (and pissed off the autism community) and he was found guilty. The interesting part is that the judge chose to not use his name, citing how his type revel in their fame so she wasn't going to give it to him. She referred to him throughout sentencing as John Doe. She said she couldn't make the media follow her lead, but encouraged it.

He was sentenced in the last week or two, wasn’t he?

Yes, that's why I remembered it so easily. He wanted suicde-by-cop, but that very skilled officer talked him down and arrested him. It's the ultimate punishment for him that he has to live for many, many years in prison rather than the "easy" way out.