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Post by canuckcutie on May 19, 2021 13:18:05 GMT -4
I figured either Olivia or John’s PR tipped off People because some pap pics were forthcoming and they were trying to soften the blow. Olivia isn’t the shy retiring type so if someone thinks Anna is using this situation for attention just watch out.... I’m sure We’ll get the play by play on this relationship thanks to Olivia.
To be blunt if John was fronting like he was a dedicated spouse but behind the scenes he was cheating left and right then his wife has every right to be pissed off and speak out. It was her marriage and her life too that was impacted by his behaviour.
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Post by ahah on May 19, 2021 15:28:51 GMT -4
When I said she chose to court fame, I was not merely talking about the past six months. I'm talking about most of their relationship. She's known (narrowly, as you said, but known) as an artist now in very large part because of her connection to him. She was a makeup artist who grew a respectable social media following for her art and other endeavors due in large part to her connection to John and other celebrity friends. John made her a part of her act, but she accepted the spotlight so that his wife had a face as opposed to being an idea. I compare her as part of his act as being similar to the way Jim Gaffigan talks about his wife, or the way Louis CK used to talk about his wife back when he had an act ... and a wife. Anna was more present in John's career as a personality and not just an idea.
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Post by Ginger on May 19, 2021 16:27:01 GMT -4
It's true she's not a totally anonymous entity. She's always been game to participate in his act and be part of his whole image. I know she's aware that most of her followers are his fans. Mulaney's other family members have also become "characters" in the Mulaney comedyverse, but that doesn't make any of them actual celebrities.
I just don't see anything she has done as being worthy of scorn. She is in a situation she no doubt does not want to be in - her addict husband relapsed, is divorcing her, already has a new girlfriend, and the public has taken a surprising amount of interest. The New York Post just published her private mental health information, which was a huge privacy violation that she did not deserve.
The characterization of her as someone who is working her public image like a Real Housewife doesn't fit, IMO.
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Post by Sunnyhorse on May 19, 2021 17:50:50 GMT -4
She is perfectly within her rights to speak publicly about what's happened to her marriage, and how do we know she wasn't an ace at her job before John Mulaney ever entered her life? Why is it the wronged party who's being insulted?
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Post by hellsbells on May 19, 2021 21:45:27 GMT -4
But to what degree is the media still writing about her divorce because she's giving them information to write? When neither member of a divorcing couple feed information beyond the initial announcement, the discussion usually dies down. Without commentary, at this point it's a story about what an a-hole John is for hanging out with Olivia Munn. He started using drugs, publicly dating Munn publicly, and she's at fault? Hell to the nah!
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Post by ahah on May 19, 2021 21:49:34 GMT -4
But to what degree is the media still writing about her divorce because she's giving them information to write? When neither member of a divorcing couple feed information beyond the initial announcement, the discussion usually dies down. Without commentary, at this point it's a story about what an a-hole John is for hanging out with Olivia Munn. He went to rehab, started dating Munn publicly, and she's at fault? Hell to the nah! No, that’s not what I said. I said it takes two people to make a marriage fail. I said that I don’t like the way she’s used public statements to sway sympathy her way. Not everyone sees it that way, and I have no problem with that. I expressed my opinion. I don’t expect anyone else to think like me.
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Post by laurenj on May 20, 2021 10:28:05 GMT -4
He went to rehab, started dating Munn publicly, and she's at fault? Hell to the nah! No, that’s not what I said. I said it takes two people to make a marriage fail. I said that I don’t like the way she’s used public statements to sway sympathy her way. Not everyone sees it that way, and I have no problem with that. I expressed my opinion. I don’t expect anyone else to think like me. Except that as stated above, he relapsed on drugs, went to rehab and is publicly dating someone else. Pretty sure the sympathy was going to be heading her way regardless just based on those publicly known facts.
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Post by batmom on May 20, 2021 11:31:54 GMT -4
It doesn't take two people to make a marriage fail. It takes two people to make it work; only one to make it fail.
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Post by Ginger on May 20, 2021 14:52:22 GMT -4
That expression always reminds me of Richard Belzer (Homicide, Law & Order) whose father abused his mother very badly throughout his childhood. When the cops came, they told his mother to think about what she was doing wrong and said, "It takes two, Mrs. Belzer." No, abuse and misbehavior don't "take two".
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Post by missjennifer on May 20, 2021 16:40:34 GMT -4
Sir Patrick Stewart told a similar story. His dad, a war vet with PTSD, abused his mom (never his son directly, but Patrick would interpose himself sometimes to take the blows for his mother). And whenever the police visited their home, they'd say things like, "You must have said something to set him off," or "It takes two to make a quarrel, Mrs. Stewart." Only one person, a stout neighbor lady, would intervene and defend Mrs. Stewart, snarling, "Come on, Alf Stewart, you have a go at me if you're man enough!" He never did. Sir Patrick often said that he wished he could thank that lady with all his heart.
And in spite of all this, Sir Patrick STILL does his best to understand and forgive a man who was navigating the waters of PTSD without anywhere near the medical or social support we have today.
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