Courtney Love

[PearlySweetcake]

It's been years since I've seen a Courtney Love thread, and yet my default reaction is still "Oh God, now what?"

[cremetangerine82]

Mar 21, 2023 1:02:36 GMT -4 PearlySweetcake said:

It's been years since I've seen a Courtney Love thread, and yet my default reaction is still "Oh God, now what?"

I (unfortunately) share her first name, so my dad would save every clipping of her carousel of self-destruction. I appreciate she wrote that op-ed without one mention of her band.

[prisma]

Marc Maron interviewed her for WTF podcast a few months ago and it was an extravaganza of name dropping. She lives in her own universe though, so it was still interesting to listen to. Marc admitted up front that steering the interview was an impossible task so it was pretty much an hour of her stream of consciousness.

I don't doubt she would have good points about sexism though.

[Ginger]

I feel like the subtext of Courtney's fight to get more women into the Hall of Fame is getting herself into the Hall of Fame, even if she has been studiously avoiding making it about that.

Nov 18, 2005 14:33:27 GMT -4 prisma said:

Marc Maron interviewed her for WTF podcast a few months ago and it was an extravaganza of name dropping.

LOL, I think Carrie Fisher told Courtney to try to cut down on all the name dropping. I believe I learned this factoid in the context of Courtney name dropping Carrie Fisher.

Courtney really has improved when it comes to demanding attention all the time. I follow her on instagram, but I really don't know what she's actually up to. She seemed to be living peacefully in London that last time she made her location known.

[americanchai]

It used to be the most interesting thing about her, IMO, and I think it's what kind of keeps her fun. Like who did she have some weird, unforeseen encounter with in her past? She's like a punk rock Forrest Gump.

[chiqui]

Wow. Courtney must have really sobered up to write something so eloquent! She should write more and namedrop less. She said Lester Bangs was her hero. She should follow in his footsteps.

[Auroranorth]

That was really well written, I'm surprised but pleased (and also pretty annoyed that they haven't added Chaka Khan, because she's more than earned it.)

[cremetangerine82]

Mar 21, 2023 22:15:53 GMT -4 Auroranorth said:

That was really well written, I'm surprised but pleased (and also pretty annoyed that they haven't added Chaka Khan, because she's more than earned it.)

I'm not surprised; her intelligence and vast music knowledge would make her able to write about this topic concisely and powerfully. As much as she name-drops, she's been around SO many famous people, she IS a Forrest Gump-like figure! That's an apt description, americanchai and thank for the correction, Auroranorth.

[Auroranorth]

Mar 21, 2023 22:33:10 GMT -4 cremetangerine82 said:

Mar 21, 2023 22:15:53 GMT -4 Auroranorth said:

That was really well written, I'm surprised but pleased (and also pretty annoyed that they haven't added Chaka Khan, because she's more than earned it.)

I'm not surprised; her intelligence and vast music knowledge would make her able to write about this topic. As much as she name-drops, she's been around so many famous people, she IS[/] a Forrest Gump-like figure! That's an apt description, Auroranorth.

It was actually Americanchai who came up with that elegant description, I wish I could claim it.

Mar 21, 2023 1:02:36 GMT -4 PearlySweetcake said:

It's been years since I've seen a Courtney Love thread, and yet my default reaction is still "Oh God, now what?"

LOL, mine was, "Oh dear, let's hope it's nice news about Frances."

[scarlet]

Beautiful, thoughtful words from Frances on the 30th anniversary of Kurt's death:

30 years ago my dad’s life ended. The 2nd & 3rd photo capture the last time we were together while he was still alive. His mom Wendy would often press my hands to her cheeks & say, with a lulling sadness, “you have his hands”. She would breathe them in as if it were her only chance to hold him just a little bit closer, frozen in time. I hope she’s holding his hands wherever they are. In the last 30 years my ideas around loss have been in a continuous state of metamorphosing. The biggest lesson learned through grieving for almost as long as I’ve been conscious, is that it serves a purpose. The duality of life & death, pain & joy, yin & yang, need to exist along side each other or none of this would have any meaning. It is the impermanent nature of human existence which throws us into the depths of our most authentic lives. As It turns out, there is no greater motivation for leaning into loving awareness than knowing everything ends.

I wish I could’ve known my Dad. I wish I knew the cadence of his voice, how he liked his coffee or the way it felt to be tucked in after a bedtime story. I always wondered if he would’ve caught tadpoles with me during the muggy Washington summers, or if he smelled of Camel Lights & strawberry nesquik (his favorites, I’ve been told). But there is also deep wisdom being on an expedited path to understanding how precious life is. He gifted me a lesson in death that can only come through the LIVED experience of losing someone. It’s the gift of knowing for certain, when we love ourselves & those around us with compassion, with openness, with grace, the more meaningful our time here inherently becomes.

Kurt wrote me a letter before I was born. The last line of it reads, “wherever you go or wherever I go, I will always be with you.” He kept this promise because he is present in so many ways. Whether it’s by hearing a song or through the hands we share, in those moments I get to spend a little time with my dad & he feels transcendent. ✨

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