Candice Bergen

[kafka]

I really like her and I think she's lovely, at any age. She also makes me smile in her comedic roles. In fact, I think she often makes a bad movie tolerable, even if she is playing a formulaic "tough, steely woman."

I don't know any gossip about her personal side, so I checked out IMDb and read some trivia I'd never known before:

Her father's puppet, Charlie McCarthy, had a bigger bedroom and more clothes than she did as a child.

She was kicked out of the University of Pennsylvania after failing 2 subjects. She said that she failed one of those classes, art, because she simply couldn't get to her 8 am class on time.

In the late 1960s, she was the companion of music producer Terry Melcher. At one point, they leased a house in Bel Air. In 1969, they moved into a house in Malibu, and the house they vacated was leased by Roman Polanski and Sharon Tate. It was in that house that Tate and four other people were murdered by members of the Manson Family. The fact that Melcher had agreed to produce a record for Charles Manson and backed out of the deal led to speculation that Melcher was the intended target of the killers.

Personal Comments about herself:

"I may not be the greatest actress but I've become the greatest at screen orgasms. Ten seconds of heavy breathing, roll your head from side to side, simulate a slight asthma attack and die a little."

On her less-than voluptous figure; "I'd LIKE to have tits."

"Acting has never done anything for me except encourage my vanity and provoke my arrogance."

Anyone else a Candice fan?

[cocobean]

Heck yeah I'm a Candice fan! I remembering watching and loving Murphy Brown at a very peaceful, safe time in my childhood. She always reminds me of being happy and little. Plus she seems like a very decent person.

[jilly]

I'm a fan. My two favorite films of hers are Bite the Bullet about an endurance horse race. It also had the added pretty of Jan Michael Vincent. My second favorite is The Wind and the Lion with Sean Connery who plays an arab guy who kidnaps Candice's character. In both she is stunningly, breathtakingly gorgeous. She really rivaled Grace Kelly with her cool blonde looks.


Recently they had a Boston Legal story about how some nude art photos of Candice's character are going to be auctioned off. I loved how James Spader, when looking at them, seemed to go into a trance. I'm sure if any actually exist, they are stunning.

Love Candice.

[kafka]

jilly said:

My second favorite is The Wind and the Lion with Sean Connery who plays an arab guy who kidnaps Candice's character. In both she is stunningly, breathtakingly gorgeous. She really rivaled Grace Kelly with her cool blonde looks.

I love that movie, especially as it's inspired by a real incident and I'm a history freak. And you're right, she is gorgeous!

Recently they had a Boston Legal story about how some nude art photos of Candice's character are going to be auctioned off. I loved how James Spader, when looking at them, seemed to go into a trance. I'm sure if any actually exist, they are stunning.

I saw that and it's part of what propelled me to look up stuff about her. Because if she's lovely now, she must have been jaw-droppingly beautiful at 19.

This board seems to be a crush/fan killer in terms of unearthing horrible things about people you like. So I'm a bit scared that I'll start to hear terrible things about Candice in real life.

[Ripley]

I always liked her too. Murphy Brown is an iconic role, and she inhabited it so well.

[orchidthief]

kafka said:

This board seems to be a crush/fan killer in terms of unearthing horrible things about people you like. So I'm a bit scared that I'll start to hear terrible things about Candice in real life.

Candice married Louis Malle several months after his break-up with Susan Sarandon

Details are pretty sketchy though... To Candice's credit, her relationship with Malle lasted 'til his death. So even if she was a homewrecker, at least it wasn't like an empty fling or anything.

I don't know much about Candice, really, but I do remember reading a candid interview and really liking her there after. She sounded intelligent and funny and I remember not being put off by her privileged background.

ETA: She hung out with the Black Panthers during her youth. That's a-OK with me

[kafka]

orchidthief said:

kafka said:

This board seems to be a crush/fan killer in terms of unearthing horrible things about people you like. So I'm a bit scared that I'll start to hear terrible things about Candice in real life.

Candice married Louis Malle several months after his break-up with Susan Sarandon

<Moan> Nooooooooooo, don't tell me she's a Nicole Kidman type. Ack.

Details are pretty sketchy though... To Candice's credit, her relationship with Malle lasted 'til his death. So at least it wasn't like an empty fling or anything.

Everything that I've heard about their relationship indicated that it was the real deal. So, I really want to believe that there was nothing fishy about how they got together or about their marriage. I know I'm biased but I just don't get the impression that she would have stood by if it was a fake Hollywood deal, replete with mistresses and covered up scandal.

I don't know much about Candice, really, but I do remember reading a candid interview and really liking her there after. She sounded intelligent and funny and I remember not being put off by her privileged background.

ETA: She hung out with the Black Panthers during her youth. That's a-OK with me

She did have a privileged background in some respects but, IMO, it wasn't a very happy one. It doesn't seem as though her father paid her the slightest heed. And, frankly, it must hurt like hell to come 2nd (3rd? 5th? 8th?) to a doll and to all his other interests. From what (little) I know, there doesn't seem to have been a mother on the scene to counteract her father's obsessive attention to the doll. Sure, it was part of his act and his career but he really seemed to care more for that thing than his own daughter.

When I read about CTC's endless bleating about his father --- and manipulation of his childhood for his own PR purposes ---- and counter it with Candice Bergen's silent commentary about her experiences, it just makes me admire her more. She never trots out her past as a way to get media attention, even though she's at an age when she's deemed too old for Hollywood and perhaps some media/tabloid stories could get her a boost.

[Mouse]

kafka said:

Everything that I've heard about their relationship indicated that it was the real deal. So, I really want to believe that there was nothing fishy about how they got together or about their marriage. I know I'm biased but I just don't get the impression that she would have stood by if it was a fake Hollywood deal, replete with mistresses and covered up scandal.

Me neither, especially since she and Malle lived on two continents together, going back and forth between the US and France.

I do remember Malle's comment about Murphy Brown: "I pity the man who has to live with her." ;D

I know that early in her career, Candice was not considered to be a good actress. However, she came in to her own as she got older. I mean, she was nominated for a Golden Turkey for Worst Actress of All Time, but years later she was winning Emmys!

[comfortablynumb]

[quote/]She did have a privileged background in some respects but, IMO, it wasn't a very happy one. It doesn't seem as though her father paid her the slightest heed. And, frankly, it must hurt like hell to come 2nd (3rd? 5th? 8th?) to a doll and to all his other interests. From what (little) I know, there doesn't seem to have been a mother on the scene to counteract her father's obsessive attention to the doll. Sure, it was part of his act and his career but he really seemed to care more for that thing than his own daughter.
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Actually, I think her mother was a model and that she and Candice are very close. Candice gets her looks from her mother. I've always thought that Candice is breathtakingly beautiful, and her mom is too.

[Peggy Lane]

Her mom was beautiful, and appeared on some Murphy Brown eps. I love Candice, as well.

n the late 1960s, she was the companion of music producer Terry Melcher

Hey, that means she was almost Doris Day's daughter-in-law. How cool is that?