Rihanna

[wixy]

Such a tacky pregnancy announcement. Jeans dragging in the snow walking down a dirty street? Girl, no. She's gorgeous but just nope. No great feelings toward Asap Colorist "BLM doesn't affect me, I live in Beverly Hills" Rocky either. Disappointing.

Stans on LSA are melting down, insisting it's okay she chose this dusty to procreate with but not marry because she's too rich to be a babymama and marriage is a big commitment.

Slightly OT, but I hate that line of thinking - isn't it an even bigger commitment to have a baby with someone? A baby ties you for life, a marriage you can get out of. Personal opinion but I hate that we have semi-normalized this idea.

[Neurochick]

Feb 1, 2022 7:01:47 GMT -4 wixy said:

Such a tacky pregnancy announcement. Jeans dragging in the snow walking down a dirty street? Girl, no. She's gorgeous but just nope. No great feelings toward Asap Colorist "BLM doesn't affect me, I live in Beverly Hills" Rocky either. Disappointing.

Stans on LSA are melting down, insisting it's okay she chose this dusty to procreate with but not marry because she's too rich to be a babymama and marriage is a big commitment.

Slightly OT, but I hate that line of thinking - isn't it an even bigger commitment to have a baby with someone? A baby ties you for life, a marriage you can get out of. Personal opinion but I hate that we have semi-normalized this idea.

I don't get it. She was walking down a street in NYC, lots of people walk down the streets of NYC, hence the streets are probably dirty. She probably called the paps to show her belly.

I was on LSA too and just shook my head. Too many people believe that if you have "all the right stuff" you'll be happy. But that isn't true. Stuff is just that, stuff and stuff changes and withers. Life gets life-y and just because you marry a "doctor, lawyer or businessman" doesn't mean you life will be golden. In reality it's a coin toss. In fact, a lot of life is a coin toss and you can either get out there or cower in fear.

I remember years ago how people were angry with the actress Jessica Lange because she had a child with Baryshnikov and wasn't married to him. Folks were very bent out of shape about that.

I think with all the bad news out here, two NYC police officers murdered, a former Miss USA's suicide, it's nice to see some good news for a change.

[hellsbells]

I think they're cute. Is ASAP Rocky the one who was arrested in Sweden? And Trump had to intervene? (BC of weapons? AM I remembering correctly?) That, and her history with Chris Brown, makes me question why she chooses men who have weapons and promote violence. I worry about any woman who chooses to be with someone who may exhibit violent tendencies.

Having said that, I've heard good things about ASAP, too, and they've been friends for a long time, so hopefully she's in a good place with this relationship.

And she is glowing and gorgeous and hopefully brings a happy and healthy bambino into this world.

[wixy]

Feb 1, 2022 10:32:40 GMT -4 Neurochick said:

Feb 1, 2022 7:01:47 GMT -4 wixy said:

Such a tacky pregnancy announcement. Jeans dragging in the snow walking down a dirty street? Girl, no. She's gorgeous but just nope. No great feelings toward Asap Colorist "BLM doesn't affect me, I live in Beverly Hills" Rocky either. Disappointing.

Stans on LSA are melting down, insisting it's okay she chose this dusty to procreate with but not marry because she's too rich to be a babymama and marriage is a big commitment.

Slightly OT, but I hate that line of thinking - isn't it an even bigger commitment to have a baby with someone? A baby ties you for life, a marriage you can get out of. Personal opinion but I hate that we have semi-normalized this idea.

I don't get it. She was walking down a street in NYC, lots of people walk down the streets of NYC, hence the streets are probably dirty. She probably called the paps to show her belly.

I was on LSA too and just shook my head. Too many people believe that if you have "all the right stuff" you'll be happy. But that isn't true. Stuff is just that, stuff and stuff changes and withers. Life gets life-y and just because you marry a "doctor, lawyer or businessman" doesn't mean you life will be golden. In reality it's a coin toss. In fact, a lot of life is a coin toss and you can either get out there or cower in fear.

Yeah she did call the paps because apparently that photographer is a close friend and responsible for most of her pap pics. I just think it's a tacky showing to reveal your pregnancy out in the cold, walking down a street, coat unbuttoned. Not every celeb needs to do a fancy pregnancy photoshoot reveal, but this was not tasteful.

And yes I agree, in reality everything is a coin toss. It's just my personal opinion that choosing to have a baby with someone is a huge commitment. Arguably more so than getting married and then having a baby. There is no "right" way to do it, opinions vary. I feel that if you aren't committed enough to get married, why commit to a lifelong attachment like a baby.

I'm not a fan of babymama culture, and even less so with a man who's made problematic colorist comments, but again just my opinion. If she likes it, she likes it.

[batmom]

Eh, kids bring you into each other's orbit for 20ish years. And you can be committed to someone without marrying them. I had a baby with someone I wasn't serious about and had the same question posed to me (although I didn't get pregnant on purpose) - how I could commit to a kid but not marriage. The answer was that I was sure I'd love my kid forever; definitely couldn't say the same about the dude. Now he made it easy for me by disappearing completely, so no awkwardness. But my ex and I split when our daughter was in her last year of high school and if this year has been any indication, I'll have to see him briefly a couple of times a year. Totally doable.

And given the shit that I got 26 years ago for being pregnant out of wedlock, I'm glad things have changed.

[wixy]

This is an interesting discussion. Appreciate the thoughts. My point of view stems a lot from work I do with young and single moms. Also, I'm coming at it from a black and WOC historical perspective where being an unmarried mother does not benefit us at all.

I've seen it play out with family, with the women I work with, there's a lot of systemic disadvantages in the mix. Not being married while having kids with that person leaves you financially vulnerable, and cohabiting is not the same as a healthy marriage togetherness. The constant transitions and state of flux doesn't benefit kids either. It's too easy to walk away from a child and a 'situation' that you have co-parented but haven't committed to in any other way.

In Rihanna's case, she's super rich so she has no financial worries, but money doesn't stop all the other potential issues that come from having a baby with a partner over a husband.

Marriage may not be trendy or modern anymore but for me it's still important as a foundation for a baby (for couples obviously who want that commitment). I'm all for single women and men choosing to be parents on their own. My BFF did it and she and the child are thriving (adoption).

[batmom]

And that's totally fair. When I got pregnant I had all the statistics thrown at me about how 80% (or something) of single moms live in poverty. And I would counter that only 8% of single moms had a university degree (I was in my final year of my degree and was going to finish before the baby came.) I also had a number of other advantages, including graduating with no debt, a supportive and well-off family, and white skin. I completely get it. I got shit so I can only imagine what it might have been like if I'd been a visible minority.

I guess that if we prefer marriage before babies because it symbolizes stability that we simply focus on the stability aspect of it, and not the convention. Plenty of women have been married and abandoned. Or married deadbeats and ended up with two kids to look after. Getting married will never make a bad decision good and it can further trap a woman in a bad situation.

[Coffeecakes]

At the end of the day, rich and powerful or not, Rihanna is a pathetic bird. Asap mocked the beating she took from Chris Brown, receipts are online, is friends with Chris and Drake as well as Meek Mill another one of her exes. She got with Drake and Chris Brown after they, plus Meek, were saying she was their hoe on twitter. Her self esteem is in the gutter. So even if she were poor, she is a bird. She just happens to be rich so suddenly it is a okay to get pregnant by a dusty shit bag like Asap. Shit won't last, and Asap wrote a nasty song about Rita Ora another of his exes, so I expect the same when they go bust. She is a savage bad bitch my ass.

[MrsOldManBalls]

Internalized misogyny maybe?

[Neurochick]

Jul 30, 2015 4:45:24 GMT -4 wixy said:

I'm not a fan of babymama culture, and even less so with a man who's made problematic colorist comments, but again just my opinion. If she likes it, she likes it.

What problematic colorist comments did he make?