Chris Rock

[Mutagen]

xenna said:

I'm not really suprised, most of his jokes about marriage and fatherhood seem very mean-spirited.

Wow, I thought I was the only one who got this impression.

[indigo]

hotlips said:

sunnyhorse said:

Chris is really funny and often on the mark with his commentary, but, when it comes right down to it, I've never been all that sure that he likes women much.

Me neither, especially lesbian women. There was an interview with him in Rolling Stone a few months back and they had him name his favorite records of all time. He chose The Miseducation of Lauryn Hill as one of them and he said something like, "before this, I'd never heard a heterosexual woman rap before." I don't know what to make of that. Dumbass.

Not a nice thing to say. I can only guess he was not so subtly trying to out Queen Latifah and maybe MC Lyte etc and the other female MCs from The Golden Age of Rap era.

Whenever he was making his jokes about marriage and relationships he did sound like a mean-spirited asshat and a man who seriously doesn't like women very much and is frustrated because he doesn't understand them nor does he feel understood.

The opener to one of his thirty minutes straight stints on the misery of being in relationships with women was "I like women. I love women. My mother's a woman. So that helps."

Anyway I laughed. His jokes may be mean and kind of woman-hating but they are funny. I'll take that over him being watered down, censored, PC, insincere and ultimately unfunny.

Eddie Murphy's "R.A.W." is a sexist tirade from just about start to finish and I would be offended if confronted with a man who seriously thought like that. But in the context of comedy and him making it funny it was funny. Plus it's easy to just dismiss them when they are jokes meant to make you laugh rather than get you mad. Same with Rock's stuff.

[linared]

Chris is really funny and often on the mark with his commentary, but, when it comes right down to it, I've never been all that sure that he likes women much

I've always thought this too. I remember a joke he made about meeting women at pro-choice rallies, I don't remember the exact joke but I believe the meaning behind it was that pro-choice women are whores. I didn't like the joke that much. But I do like his sitcom.

[finchy]

dguzpy said:

xenna said:

When it comes right down to it, I don't think he was interested in becoming a father and when he did, was very disappointed that he ended up with two daughters and no sons.

Is this just a hunch or based on anything he actually said? Because in all the interviews I've seen him give, he mentions how he came from a large family and liked it. He also seemed to dote on his little girls and joked about being a protective daddy.

When his wife was pregnant with their first daughter, they were interviewed by Oprah for her magazine. Chris said something to the effect of "A girl would be nice. I think I'd be too hard on a boy."

[stephanie]

hotlips said:

sunnyhorse said:

Chris is really funny and often on the mark with his commentary, but, when it comes right down to it, I've never been all that sure that he likes women much.

Me neither, especially lesbian women. There was an interview with him in Rolling Stone a few months back and they had him name his favorite records of all time. He chose The Miseducation of Lauryn Hill as one of them and he said something like, "before this, I'd never heard a heterosexual woman rap before." I don't know what to make of that. Dumbass.

For the longest time Queen Latifah, Salt N' Peppa were the image of female rappers. Let's face it these sistas aren't exactly dainty flowers ;D That being said Chris strikes me as an insecure male chauvenist (sp?) so it comes as no surprise that he would make a derogatory statement about any female who appears strong, independent and self sufficient. Scrawny brothas like Chris are easily intimidated by such.

[Ginger]

That being said Chris strikes me as an insecure male chauvenist (sp?) so it comes as no surprise that he would make a derogatory statement about any female who appears strong, independent and self sufficient.

Which is why I think he was always making so many vaguely negative remarks about his wife. Malaak has never struck me as submissive, and the fact that she stood up to him seemed to be the reason why he married her and also the reason why he resented her.

[indigo]

oldschool said:

Many female rappers are rumored to be lesbian, but I never believed Salt N' Peppa and a few others to be considered as such. I think that joke would go over well with people that easily buy into stereotypes.

Agreed.

That being said Chris strikes me as an insecure male chauvenist (sp?) so it comes as no surprise that he would make a derogatory statement about any female who appears strong, independent and self sufficient. Scrawny brothas like Chris are easily intimidated by such.

This is an accurate observation in my opinion.

[jaghetersimon]

I have NEVER thought that Rock was as funny or insightful as he is supposed to be. I mean, his "political" jokes are so stale. He seems like an insecure jerk and I'm glad his wife finally wised up and dumped him. He only said very passive-aggressive if not cruel things about her and their relationship. And he couldn't keep it in his pants either.

[abbynormal]

linared said:

Chris is really funny and often on the mark with his commentary, but, when it comes right down to it, I've never been all that sure that he likes women much

I've always thought this too. I remember a joke he made about meeting women at pro-choice rallies, I don't remember the exact joke but I believe the meaning behind it was that pro-choice women are whores. I didn't like the joke that much. But I do like his sitcom.

This one?

"Abortion, it's beautiful, it's beautiful abortion is legal. I love going to an abortion rally to pick up women, cause you know they are fucking."

[linared]

"Abortion, it's beautiful, it's beautiful abortion is legal. I love going to an abortion rally to pick up women, cause you know they are fucking

That's the one.