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Post by FiggyPudding on May 23, 2019 12:34:16 GMT -4
I can't remember who told me this, but he said he once asked a friend why the friend keeps dating inappropriately young girls even as the friend himself ages, and the friend told him he can't date women his age because they catch onto his bullshit immediately.
It sounds like a conveniently self deprecating excuse, yet it's still believable.
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Post by Ginger on May 23, 2019 13:08:38 GMT -4
I think that maybe their one meetup was a date, that doesn’t mean they dated. He sounds like an insecure, stage 5 clinger. Based on his own description of events, I feel it's more likely that he presented himself as a friend, pushed this one encounter to a place she didn't really want it to go, and then once it was over, she pulled back from their friendship and gave him no more opportunities. Even though he implies she was a seductress, he is the one who went all the way to Boston to pursue her and wound up sleeping in her dorm bed. I could easily see an 18 year old girl not knowing how to politely rebuff this guy who came all the way to see her and feeling like she was obligated to go along with the direction he took the evening. |
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2019 14:46:21 GMT -4
He's losing it a little on Insta ... kinda like a guilty person would.  This sucks. I've been a huge fan for ages, mainly due to his activism in the animal rights space. I'm so disappointed that he's this kind of man. |
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Post by celerydunk on May 23, 2019 14:47:41 GMT -4
I can't remember who told me this, but he said he once asked a friend why the friend keeps dating inappropriately young girls even as the friend himself ages, and the friend told him he can't date women his age because they catch onto his bullshit immediately. It sounds like a conveniently self deprecating excuse, yet it's still believable. I feel like someone told that story on a thread here...maybe ratscabies? |
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Post by FiggyPudding on May 23, 2019 15:26:33 GMT -4
I can't remember who told me this, but he said he once asked a friend why the friend keeps dating inappropriately young girls even as the friend himself ages, and the friend told him he can't date women his age because they catch onto his bullshit immediately. It sounds like a conveniently self deprecating excuse, yet it's still believable. I feel like someone told that story on a thread here...maybe ratscabies? I think you're right!! |
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Post by Ginger on May 23, 2019 16:29:32 GMT -4
He's losing it a little on Insta ... kinda like a guilty person would. This sucks. I've been a huge fan for ages, mainly due to his activism in the animal rights space. I'm so disappointed that he's this kind of man. He called Natalie a liar four times in his whiny instagram post today and referred to his "evidence" and her "accusations". The Washington Post has a good article breaking down his BS and points out a lot of factual errors and inconsistencies in his account of their relationship as written in his book. The Washington Post pinned down their encounters as having happened in August - September of 1999 (shortly after she turned 18, as Natalie accurately stated). Whether or not their relationship qualified as "dating" is subjective and both Natalie and Moby are entitled to maintain their own opinions, but the Washington Post definitely leans toward's Natalie's assessment, given that everything happened over a period of about four weeks at most. Moby doesn't seem to get that he can't force her to change her opinion that he was creepy, that pursuing her was inappropriate, and that it made her uncomfortable - regardless of whether or not they had contact that was "consensual" at the time. |
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Post by pachengala on May 23, 2019 17:59:08 GMT -4
Moby doesn't seem to get that he can't force her to change her opinion that he was creepy, that pursuing her was inappropriate, and that it made her uncomfortable - regardless of whether or not they had contact that was "consensual" at the time. Not to be glib, but this is one of my favorite collateral outcomes of the #metoo movement: watching white men whine and thrash against this new accountability; they're so surprised and affronted that their actions are questioned, probably for the first times in their lives, that they're just hysterically losing their shit. I find it super entertaining to watch. |
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Post by prisma on May 23, 2019 19:18:18 GMT -4
This whole thing is so cringeworthy. And he brought it all on himself. Had he not bragged about her in his book, she probably never would have said anything about him. The fact that he's tripling and quadrupling down on "We did too have a relationship!!" totally misses the point that the majority of the people commenting negatively on his posts are grossed out by the age difference. And he calls them trolls. As one person called @fartsconstantly (that made me laugh) pointed out: "Trolls are not the same as people who are genuinely grossed out by your pedo behavior."
I 100% believe Natalie. I had one situation in particular where I flat-out told a guy that I didn't want to date but I'd be happy to be his friend (big mistake) and he *still* thought we were dating and he got weird and I eventually had to literally break up with this guy I wasn't dating. The only way I would think Natalie was lying would be if Moby produced a picture of them where she was gazing adoringly at him, but that doesn't describe any of the pics he posted.
I liked Play but haven't really thought of Moby in years. After being a vegetarian for 25 years I went vegan last July, and so I came across his name in vegan circles. I really respect his activism--to be a vegan activist you pretty much have to get down into the gory details about the way animals are treated in the livestock industry, which is something I don't think my heart could take. It's so heartbreaking. I'm glad he's thrown his celebrity behind the cause but, damn man, this is going to knock him back and he totally brought it on himself.
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Post by Ginger on May 23, 2019 20:56:34 GMT -4
I was looking at the comments on Moby's instagram. On the photo he posted of himself with Ian MacKaye: "Are you two dating?" "Well, there's a photo of them next to each other, so yes."  |
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2019 23:16:37 GMT -4
The photos Moby posted as "evidence" of their relationship are hilarious. In every single one Natalie looks like she is being held hostage at a fan meet and greet. The other story that Moby has been using to promote his book is him going on a date with a pre-fame Lana Del Ray. She was 21 and he was 40. That story is not quite as creepy but just as delusional. She insulted him to his face, he decided it was a compliment and then was surprised that the evening did not end in sex. She hasn't responded yet but it wouldn't surprise me if her perception of that evening was different from his as well. |
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This sucks. I've been a huge fan for ages, mainly due to his activism in the animal rights space. I'm so disappointed that he's this kind of man. 
