Anne Heche

[ennazus]

I think we could surmise she was impaired. Driving for all the wrong reasons.

[Margo]

Aug 9, 2022 11:23:08 GMT -4 Mouse said:

Do we really know if Anne Heche was drunk? I was thinking this could have been a suicide attempt.

The thing is, this makes no difference in evaluating the morality of her actions. If you want to kill yourself, don't choose a method that may kill/harm others. Crash your car into a wall or a cliff, not someone else's house - or better yet, don't use a car at all.

I agree with others who have said that what Anne is going through now is horrific and is worse than any legal punishment that may follow if she survives.

[Ladybug]

The police had a warrant for a blood sample. She was also on a podcast that morning drinking alcohol.

Anne Heche's car crash reveals our conflicting attitudes toward mental health and substance abuse

[chiqui]

I agree it was partly a suicide bid. I guess deep down she really wanted to off herself, but failed.

[famvir]

In a photo taken into her car during the ruckus after she ran into the apartment building, just before she tore off, she was wearing a seat belt.

This is probably why she survived crashing almost all the way through a house and wasn't ejected through the front windshield.

[dragonflie]

Aug 9, 2022 9:53:36 GMT -4 romanova said:

It is pure luck that Anne didn't kill anyone and it is, in my opinion, no little bit of pure white celebrity privilege that she is receiving a helluva lot more "benefit of the doubt" than would be extended to a dirt-poor alcoholic from the nearest reservation committing the same offense. As dragonflies says, everyone has a story; unfortunately, mercy and compassion are more generally reserved for the privileged, same as it ever was.

Having said all that, there is no legal punishment Anne could ever receive that would be worse than what she is physically enduring now. She is in physical hell and being in a coma is a blessing.

Totally agree with all of this!

That's what kinda irks me: she is getting the compassionate/think of all of her struggles kid gloves from a lot of people. In many/most cases that are entirely similar that would not be happening- and the only difference I can think of is: she is famous and white and pretty and not the image of a "typical" scumbag. Would I feel the same if it was Britney Spears? 100%- and I have voiced that in her thread in the past. When she locked herself and her baby in a bathroom and was acting suicidal, when she was photoed being unsafe with her babies, etc- I always felt- as much as her struggles may have led to that- she was a dirt bag human for endangering her children.

Mental health struggles are not an excuse to put others peoples lives in danger. That garners zero empathy from me. I happen to work with ppl with mental health issues. One of the main things we learn: boundaries and expectations on behavior are paramount. Excusing, accepting, or being gentle with aggressive, dangerous, homicidal behavior does no one any favors.

I think maybe the other bit that has given Anne this wider swath of forgiveness is the pain and peril she herself is now in. It IS horrible. I agree, it is worse than a prison sentence. And it was all caused by her actions. We all have struggles. Many way worse than hers - yet- most of us don't behave in a way that endangers others lives and livelihoods. I feel a deep sense of sadness for the whole situation- but my empathy/sympathy is not for her. Not because it is finite- but because she had the choice to do different, yet caused all of this suffering.

[ahah]

Aug 9, 2022 14:18:28 GMT -4 dragonflie said:

Aug 9, 2022 9:53:36 GMT -4 romanova said:

It is pure luck that Anne didn't kill anyone and it is, in my opinion, no little bit of pure white celebrity privilege that she is receiving a helluva lot more "benefit of the doubt" than would be extended to a dirt-poor alcoholic from the nearest reservation committing the same offense. As dragonflies says, everyone has a story; unfortunately, mercy and compassion are more generally reserved for the privileged, same as it ever was.

Having said all that, there is no legal punishment Anne could ever receive that would be worse than what she is physically enduring now. She is in physical hell and being in a coma is a blessing.

Totally agree with all of this!

That's what kinda irks me: she is getting the compassionate/think of all of her struggles kid gloves from a lot of people. In many/most cases that are entirely similar that would not be happening- and the only difference I can think of is: she is famous and white and pretty and not the image of a "typical" scumbag. Would I feel the same if it was Britney Spears? 100%- and I have voiced that in her thread in the past. When she locked herself and her baby in a bathroom and was acting suicidal, when she was photoed being unsafe with her babies, etc- I always felt- as much as her struggles may have led to that- she was a dirt bag human for endangering her children.

Mental health struggles are not an excuse to put others peoples lives in danger. That garners zero empathy from me. I happen to work with ppl with mental health issues. One of the main things we learn: boundaries and expectations on behavior are paramount. Excusing, accepting, or being gentle with aggressive, dangerous, homicidal behavior does no one any favors.

I think maybe the other bit that has given Anne this wider swath of forgiveness is the pain and peril she herself is now in. It IS horrible. I agree, it is worse than a prison sentence. And it was all caused by her actions. We all have struggles. Many way worse than hers - yet- most of us don't behave in a way that endangers others lives and livelihoods. I feel a deep sense of sadness for the whole situation- but my empathy/sympathy is not for her. Not because it is finite- but because she had the choice to do different, yet caused all of this suffering.

It's not an excuse - it's an explanation.

[luckylexie]

Why do you think she sat up on the gurney while being wheeled into the ambulance? Adrenaline? She didn't look badly injured or burned? I admit that I'm ignorant about burn injuries. Why was her face covered like she was deceased?

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Aug 9, 2022 16:42:47 GMT -4 luckylexie said:

Why do you think she sat up on the gurney while being wheeled into the ambulance? Adrenaline? She didn't look badly injured or burned? I admit that I'm ignorant about burn injuries. Why was her face covered like she was deceased?

I was badly burned in a fire (years ago, as a teen-- a kitchen accident). I obviously wasn't injured as badly as she was, but I can tell you that in the immediate aftermath you are in shock and feel completely numb. It takes a few minutes for things to kick in and then you feel this immense rush of unbelievable fiery pain (you do feel the actual pain of being burned while on fire but when it's put out/you are removed, the sensation stops for a few minutes due to the shock). So, that reaction on her part makes sense. It wasn't until I was on the way to the hospital that it fully kicked in.

[Ginger]

Aug 9, 2022 16:42:47 GMT -4 luckylexie said:

Why do you think she sat up on the gurney while being wheeled into the ambulance? Adrenaline? She didn't look badly injured or burned? I admit that I'm ignorant about burn injuries. Why was her face covered like she was deceased?

I read that the burns are worst on her feet and legs because that's where the fire was, so her head and torso might not look that bad.

My guess is that they wrapped her in a blanket to protect her burns from getting debris on them which could cause infection. Also, burns are really sensitive to air movement, so probably the blanket was to reduce pain as they transported her.