Kate Winslet

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Jun 9, 2021 9:04:02 GMT -4 ahah said:

Jun 8, 2021 14:31:13 GMT -4 Ginger said:

At least Kate's not trying to boost her daughter's career by posing with her on magazine covers a la Catherine Zeta, but discussing her daughter's "under the radar" acting career with Jimmy Kimmel seemed designed to give a little boost.

Most of these kids aren't going to achieve anything significant. They would be so lucky if they were ever to ascend to Kate Hudson's level.

As I was reading the comments about Hollywood parents trying to deny the advantages their kids have, Goldie was one who came to mind who really didn't try to deny it. I don't recall her going over the top promoting any of her kids careers - but as Kate was riding the Almost Famous Oscar wave to fame, Goldie was certainly present expressing her pride. Perhaps Kate and others should take note - not denying reality can actually help a kid's career. That also of course depends on the kid having actual talent.

Jeff Bridges has outright said that he’s a product of nepotism, and his (and his brother’s) first on screen roles were in things their father was also in. Of course in their case they have the talent to back it up. You don’t get all the acting awards those two have gotten just because your dad is Lloyd Bridges.

[Ginger]

Gwyneth Paltrow was honest at the start of her career that she got an agent (a major agent) through her parents and all of her first roles were "little nepotistic things", including a role in her godfather Steven Spielberg's movie Hook. That didn't go over well so she later changed her story to emphasize that brutal 6 months during which she was a restaurant hostess and had to use spare change to pay for her Starbucks. I don't think Goop ever backed up the hype with a commensurate amount of talent.

But 25 years ago when Goop was making her name, it was a much smaller field of "stars". There is so, so much content now, and so much opportunity for nondescript celebrity kids to appear in streaming shows while only becoming 5% as famous as their parents.

[angelaudie]

Jun 9, 2021 5:22:53 GMT -4 lizziebeth730 said:

Jun 9, 2021 3:46:41 GMT -4 Alexis Machine said:

Speaking of Kate and nepotism, her brother Wyatt was pretty good as David in The Woman in the Window and in Ingrid Goes West.

And in Falcon and Winter Soldier!

He took a completely unsympathetic character on paper and made him nuanced. Not easy to do. I would argue he was the breakout star of that show.

Speaking of the MCU and nepotism Elizabeth Olsen probably also benefited from having famous family members. Sure Mary Kate and Ashley can’t act but they knew people. Oddly enough, unlike her older sisters, Elizabeth Olsen actually can act.

I’m not going to judge Mia until I actually see her work. She might actually have talent. Though Kate probably should have kept her mouth shut if Mia truly wants to float under the radar.

[royalwave]

Jun 9, 2021 11:39:36 GMT -4 Ginger said:

But 25 years ago when Goop was making her name, it was a much smaller field of "stars". There is so, so much content now, and so much opportunity for nondescript celebrity kids to appear in streaming shows while only becoming 5% as famous as their parents.

I'll be honest, when I look at People or similar magazines these days I barely recognize half of the faces in their red carpet fashion sections. It could just be I'm getting old and don't have the time to stay on top of pop culture like I used to, but I also think it's the proliferation of avenues by which to consume content. I'm definitely completely out of the loop when it comes to the music world, and don't get me started on YouTube/Instagram/TikTok "stars".

I agree with the assessment that Mia doesn't really have the looks to be a conventional leading lady or an ingenue. It's got to be really hard for children of actresses/actors who were known as beauties in an industry that is obsessed with appearances. I could say the same about Val Kilmer's son Jack, who has tried his hand at acting too. Looks-wise he doesn't hold a candle to his father in his heyday. And Val wasn't even really that conventionally handsome, but he had a magnetism that the son is definitely lacking.

[Ginger]

Oct 24, 2019 13:25:06 GMT -4 royalwave said:

I'll be honest, when I look at People or similar magazines these days I barely recognize half of the faces in their red carpet fashion sections. It could just be I'm getting old and don't have the time to stay on top of pop culture like I used to, but I also think it's the proliferation of avenues by which to consume content.

Ditto. At least 50% if not more of the celebrity sighting on Deux Moi are reality stars. That tier of celebrity didn't exist 20 years ago. Kardashians and Real Housewives were not a thing.

After Googling them because of the constant Deux Moi mentions, I don't know who "Craig and Paige" are and have no interest in finding out. I haven't even heard of the reality show they are on. Even if you are young and really into that stuff, there's too much content for anybody to take in and very little common ground when it comes to what people are watching. Whenever I get TV recommendations from friends, I get a long list of shows I have never, ever heard of.

I think it's getting harder and harder for anyone to achieve "household name" starpower.

[Wol]

Jun 9, 2021 9:04:02 GMT -4 ahah said:

Jun 8, 2021 14:31:13 GMT -4 Ginger said:

At least Kate's not trying to boost her daughter's career by posing with her on magazine covers a la Catherine Zeta, but discussing her daughter's "under the radar" acting career with Jimmy Kimmel seemed designed to give a little boost.

Most of these kids aren't going to achieve anything significant. They would be so lucky if they were ever to ascend to Kate Hudson's level.

As I was reading the comments about Hollywood parents trying to deny the advantages their kids have, Goldie was one who came to mind who really didn't try to deny it. I don't recall her going over the top promoting any of her kids careers - but as Kate was riding the Almost Famous Oscar wave to fame, Goldie was certainly present expressing her pride. Perhaps Kate and others should take note - not denying reality can actually help a kid's career. That also of course depends on the kid having actual talent.

Kate Hudson got shoved down a lot of people's throats before Almost Famous happened.

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Jun 9, 2021 14:26:07 GMT -4 Ginger said:

I think it's getting harder and harder for anyone to achieve "household name" starpower.

And yet, so many of those non-talented unknowns have the ego of Oscar winners and a "Don't you know who I am?!" attitude. Um, actually, no, I don't know who you are.

(Also, all this made me think of Primadonna Like Me by The Struts. I think it's hilarious.)

[groovethang]

Jun 9, 2021 18:59:05 GMT -4 Wol said:

Jun 9, 2021 9:04:02 GMT -4 ahah said:

As I was reading the comments about Hollywood parents trying to deny the advantages their kids have, Goldie was one who came to mind who really didn't try to deny it. I don't recall her going over the top promoting any of her kids careers - but as Kate was riding the Almost Famous Oscar wave to fame, Goldie was certainly present expressing her pride. Perhaps Kate and others should take note - not denying reality can actually help a kid's career. That also of course depends on the kid having actual talent.

Kate Hudson got shoved down a lot of people's throats before Almost Famous happened.

Agree. I remember seeing her on the pages of In Style magazine A LOT before Almost Famous was released and I had no clue who she was until I saw the movie.

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Yes, she was heavily promoted that's what I'm saying. Goldie embraced it. She didn't try to pretend that Kate was a young up and comer who was totally on her own and was able to get Cameron Crowe's attention all on her own. Lots of comparisons were made between Kate in Almost Famous and Goldie in Cactus Flower, and they embraced them. I think most audience members respect the honesty.

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I had to go google Mia - is it just me, or is she a dead ringer for a (slightly older) Greta Thunberg?