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Post by scarlet on Dec 31, 2021 13:34:24 GMT -4
But really, I hated the fact that Carrie couldn't give up heels. I can see still having good ones, but there's no reason to wear them all the time. That seems the most old fashioned to me. There are amazing flats and kitten heels out there. And great combat boots or high end sneakers if she really wanted to be on trend. I guess that would be too basic. (eye roll) The fact that "love of shoes" is her defining personality trait spanning the last 20 years is pretty pathetic. I also rolled my eyes at her being in so much pain that she couldn't walk up a set of steps but not even considering going to a doctor and needing her "new friend" to not only insist, but organize the whole thing for her. Too many complain and complain about this show because they wanted a direct sequel of SATC. That's not why I'm complaining. I don't think any sequel/reboot/new version was needed at all. It's beating a dead horse. |
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Post by magazinewhore on Dec 31, 2021 15:09:09 GMT -4
YES! Thanks, this bothered me too! It's so dumb and infantile. If someone is like that, I would not at all be surprised to find out she hasn't been vaxxed (I realize she's a fictional character).
On the plus side, she seems completely over her husband's death.
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Post by chitowngirl on Dec 31, 2021 15:54:39 GMT -4
YES! Thanks, this bothered me too! It's so dumb and infantile. If someone is like that, I would not at all be surprised to find out she hasn't been vaxxed (I realize she's a fictional character). On the plus side, she seems completely over her husband's death. And she got over him in only a few months! The man she dated and waited for for 10 years and married for 12 and she's moved on |
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Post by scarlet on Dec 31, 2021 15:56:47 GMT -4
YES! Thanks, this bothered me too! It's so dumb and infantile. If someone is like that, I would not at all be surprised to find out she hasn't been vaxxed (I realize she's a fictional character). On the plus side, she seems completely over her husband's death. And she got over him in only a few months! The man she dated and waited for for 10 years and married for 12 and she's moved on Back in heels and ready to date again! It's 1999 all over again. Also, Miranda's hair: I love it, but I don't know that that's naturally the color CN's hair is. It's just so perfectly silver/almost lavender. |
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Post by Beyle on Dec 31, 2021 21:46:27 GMT -4
And she got over him in only a few months! The man she dated and waited for for 10 years and married for 12 and she's moved on Maybe she heard Susan Sharon's diss at Big's funeral and took that to heart. I never understood why so many people shipped Carrie and Big. He spent most of the series leading her on. He was honest about who he was, but he was still a dick to her. |
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Ridha
Lady in Waiting
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Jun 22, 2021 13:36:50 GMT -4
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Post by Ridha on Jan 5, 2022 12:36:45 GMT -4
So I see from the newest clip of AJLT that it’s one more example of Hollywood not bothering to do basic research into naming Desi* characters. Which even for this decidedly NON-Woke viewer has always been annoying (whether Vik Khan in The Affair, or giving the clearly brown actor Shahzad Latif in Star Trek’s Discovery the decidedly White name of Ash Taylor - I mean you’ve cast a hot brown actor that’s great, why not give him a name accordingly, as well as a number of examples that irked me at the time of watching but I can’t recall now), but is particularly so in a show that is ramming diversity and Wokeness down are throats which has ruined the show, then hell at least get that diversity right, argh!
To explain, Hollywood has a tendency of lumping together Asian names that are the equivalent of a contradiction in terms, or an Oxymoronic name if that exists. Take the dr character Vik Khan in The Affair for instance. Vik is short for Vikram - a Hindu name. Khan is very much a Muslim name. Now here’s the thing, mixed interfaith marriages are not a thing there. Perhaps they can name some Oriential* characters with a Japanese first name and Chinese surname, or a Korean first name and a Phillipino last name (I really don’t know the extent to which those distinct races and cultures underneath the Oriential umbrella mix) but it’s an utterly rare thing in India. Sikhs marry Sikhs, Muslims marry Muslims, and Hindus marry Hindus (by and large Hindus even have a thing about being within their particular caste). And I say that as the product of an Interfaith marriage (Desi dad, white mum; that occaaaasionally happens, but not Hindu Muslim). Sure maybe in the upper echelons of Bollywood you have a couple of examples like Shahrukh Khan and Gauri, simply because they’re rich enough to not have to care about reactions, but otherwise does not happen.
Even the most cursory research into relations between Hindus and Muslims in India or in Pakistan and clashes both historic and current will tell a Googling show runner that. And now they’ve got Carrie’s new friend Seema - a Muslim name, celebrating Diwali - the Hindu festival. I mean it’s just so lazy; as someone sitting at the other end of the world I was honestly ok with seeing 4 white women in the original SATC. I find this tokenism stilted and cringey. But IF they insist on doing it, then… FFS Google for 5 damn mins and get it right??
**Question for Americans and Brits; how does one refer to Desis in US, and to Far East descent in UK? In the UK, Asian means us brown people from the South East Asian continent; India and Pakistan. But in America, Asian seems to mean people of Oriental/Far Eastern descent, like Vietnamese, Chinese, Korean etc? So basically what is the American term for Desis, and what’s the UK term for Orientials?
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Post by tabby on Jan 5, 2022 12:57:00 GMT -4
Question for Americans and Brits; how does one refer to Desis in US, and to Far East descent in UK? In the UK, Asian means us brown people from the South East Asian continent; India and Pakistan. But in America, Asian seems to mean people of Oriental/Far Eastern descent, like Vietnamese, Chinese, Korean etc? So basically what is the American term for Desis, and what’s the UK term for Orientials? You're correct that "Asian" in the US usually means East Asian (e.g., Japanese, Chinese, Korean). I've been given to understand that "Oriental" is not used unless you're referring to a carpet. Vietnamese, Laotian, Cambodian, etc. are "Southeast Asian." I use the umbrella term "South Asian" for people from India, Pakistan, and Bangladesh, but I don't know how common that is around the country. I'm fairly certain most Americans wouldn't get a picture in their mind of someone from India when hearing someone described as "Asian," though. |
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Ridha
Lady in Waiting
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Jun 22, 2021 13:36:50 GMT -4
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Post by Ridha on Jan 5, 2022 13:10:12 GMT -4
Thanks and then what’s the umbrella term for Indians, Pakistanis and Bangladeshis (the other South East Asians that look distinctly unlike Vietnamese, when the Vietnamese do seem to have more in common features and culture wise with the Far East Asians than us)? See now if SATC wanted to be Woke this is the kind of confusing shit that could potentially have made for some cute funny conversations in what the PC reference terms were (say by giving Charlotte a Vietnamese friend instead of a black friend, and discussing over brunch which one is Asian - her new bff or Carrie’s Oxymoron of a character Diwali celebrating Seema).
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Post by Binky on Jan 5, 2022 13:48:29 GMT -4
Even the most cursory research into relations between Hindus and Muslims in India or in Pakistan and clashes both historic and current will tell a Googling show runner that. And now they’ve got Carrie’s new friend Seema - a Muslim name, celebrating Diwali - the Hindu festival. I mean it’s just so lazy; as someone sitting at the other end of the world I was honestly ok with seeing 4 white women in the original SATC. I find this tokenism stilted and cringey. But IF they insist on doing it, then… FFS Google for 5 damn mins and get it right?? Seema was probably chosen because it's pretty and hits the ear with a familiar pattern, like Lisa, Eva, or Nina. The 20 year old white writers almost certainly got it out of name reference that just lists country or region, and they don't know that 50 year old women aren't 70 year olds, so they definitely don't have any kind of handle on the ethnic diversity of a region. **Question for Americans and Brits; how does one refer to Desis in US, and to Far East descent in UK? In the UK, Asian means us brown people from the South East Asian continent; India and Pakistan. But in America, Asian seems to mean people of Oriental/Far Eastern descent, like Vietnamese, Chinese, Korean etc? So basically what is the American term for Desis, and what’s the UK term for Orientials? In the US, South Asian is a way to differentiate, though most folks I know actually call themselves "Desi". Asian is the catchall term, but East Asian probably the term used commonly. Again, most individuals seem to just use their actual ethnicity - Chinese, etc. |
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Post by Auroranorth on Jan 5, 2022 17:39:51 GMT -4
I've never heard the term Desi used in my neck of the woods (DC/MD/VA). Oriental is not generally used anymore and is considered quite backward and rude- one of the few place I've personally seen it was in an ad for "Oriental massage" in my hometown (I later found out that this was a brothel. So, yeah.) Asian seems to be a catchall if you don't know what someone's ethnicity is.
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