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Post by Shanmac on May 13, 2005 2:06:05 GMT -4
Aw, Dave, get better.
Poor guy. I hope he gets the help he needs, and props to him for having the guts to do something about it.
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kate
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Post by kate on May 15, 2005 1:04:46 GMT -4
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gloworm
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Post by gloworm on May 15, 2005 3:14:29 GMT -4
PR spin?
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kate
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Post by kate on May 15, 2005 11:47:20 GMT -4
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Post by monsterzero on May 15, 2005 12:08:23 GMT -4
Well, I'm relieved to find that Chappelle isn't sitting naked in a concrete cell deep in South Africa screaming about Rick James and trying to slit his own wrists with Samuel Jackson beer bottle shards. It sounds like he's having one hell of a creative conflict in which he's being too hard on himself.
I doubt that thing about the marijuana, however. But still, it's better for a star to delay a season because he just can't get it right instead of going through with it anyway and destroying his show. It's noble in a way and explains why Comedy Central is being cool about it for now. Weird, just weird.
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Post by rattlerbrat on May 15, 2005 12:35:14 GMT -4
Not surprised at all to see all that racial humor is coming down on Dave. It was inevitable - it happened to Pryor, I believe it happened to Rock at one point, and it's happening to Chappelle.
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monsterzero
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Post by monsterzero on May 15, 2005 12:36:41 GMT -4
I think he should go with it. Why not?
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Post by rattlerbrat on May 15, 2005 14:33:33 GMT -4
Because it's obviously wearing on his soul. As mentioned in that article:
Unfortunately, I think Dave has closed the barn horse after the horse escaped. I've heard/read so many people say that they love Chappelle's Show because "it makes it okay for white people to say n*gger". I think Dave is beginning to see that not everyone is laughing WITH him, but AT him, and that can't be easy. He's created a monster much bigger than the Rick James thing. I'm a black woman who has worked with plenty of whites (mainly male) since CS has started and I can't count the number of times I've had to leave a room in disgust because they're telling me to "lighten up" because they keep quoting CS, but it's the "n*gger" jokes they keep repeating over and over. It just gets annoying as hell. "Hey, Dave says n*gger so we can say n*gger! It's FUNNY!" As I mentioned upthread, shouldn't there be an equal amount of Jew jokes, as Brennan is Jewish? You would never, ever, EVER hear anyone on CS call someone a "k*ke" over and over and over. Never! But we get it in nearly every fucking episode of CS. I can't even think of a skit that just really reamed white people...that didn't ream black people, too. I'm not saying Dave shouldn't ream black people - I'm saying that 1) it's getting old and 2) it reeks of cooning.
I was watching something on Court TV last night, and a judge told these girls who were convicted of armed robbery: "You have sown the winds. Now you must reap the whirlwinds." And that's happening to Dave right now. I can't feel bad for the guy...I just can't.
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monsterzero
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Post by monsterzero on May 15, 2005 14:41:10 GMT -4
Touche, rattlerbrat, I never thought about it that way. I'm a white male myself and I find it hard to watch such skits as 'The Ni**ar Family' but not in that particular way. When I laugh it's because it's so mean and cynical and awful and being the cynical bastard I am, I find it funny. I certainly don't take it to mean that I'm 'allowed' to go around screaming racial slurs because Dave Chappelle told me it was fine. I took it as probably Chappelle meant: as satire. Pity most of my peers are too fucking stupid to realize that. So, if it matters, I'm sorry for them. Please, don't feel bad if you have to kick their asses because they sure as hell deserve it.
Still, I think Chappelle sorts it out. I like him when he's being insightful, and I sure as hell hope he's able to conquer it.
You know, I'd dig him ripping white people a new one. Not that it hasn't been done before, but I think he could do it correctly and precisely to showcase the inherent racism.
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Post by brinksteria on May 15, 2005 17:47:33 GMT -4
Oh Dave, you guess he was a psychiatrist? Did he come disguised as a proctologist, probing your prostate? That would be confusing. And it was only one 40-minute session so it's not like you really sought help for a mental health issue. Got it.
All them voices in his head ... there's a touch o' crazy here. Not full-out batshit crazy maybe ... but maybe a persecution complex & crippling self-doubt brought on by extreme stress, pressure, & decades of weed. Hey, crisis happens to most folks at some point. Dave's human. Nice.
I love Dave Chappelle. Kudos to him for saying Fuck It! and just doing what he needed to do for himself. But while he's on retreat, he doesn't owe the world interviews. Wish he would just focus on feeling better situated in his skin. If he wants to come back to a showbiz career, I think the public will embrace him in a heartbeat.
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