Beyoncé Knowles

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Feb 5, 2010 21:08:40 GMT -4 LoveSparky said:

The comparison to Tina Turner does bother me at times, because I think Turner sang with more heart.

My god, to the billionth power. To me, there is no comparison, vocally. None. Ok, I'm going, before I get thrown out.

I completely and utterly agree with this. I should stop before I get thrown out too. lol.

RE: Beyonce saying she over stepped bounds by mentioning her marriage. She and Jay Z definitely seem a little peculiar. I haven't seen or read his interviews much so I don't have a strong impression of his personality, but she strikes me as a little bit of an introvert. I know that's in total contrast with her stage persona - but having introverted tendencies does not preclude you from being a performer. I don't know, I just get this impression she's either a bit introverted (in that she seems to hang back a little and hold a piece of herself back when interviewed) or she's just the most well mannered Southern lady ever. :lol: She's from Texas, right?

Oh and introverted does not necessarily mean shy or unable to connect with other people. It just means you're not energized by interacting with people (strangers are particularly draining for introverts). Bill Clinton is the biggest extrovert I've ever seen in real life. I saw him speak during the 2008 campaign and you could tell he FED off the crowd. He stayed a good 2 hours after his speech ended just so he could shake hands, chat and otherwise interact with as many people as possible. In contrast they say Johnny Carson was quite introverted even though he clearly enjoyed performing. (Go figure.) Sorry for the minor digression.

[sugarhigh]

Has Beyonce compared herself to Tina Turner? Or does the comparison come about because she's black and has big hair?

[LoveSparky]

***Creepin back in.*** I bet the Turner comparison either came from her ass or from her people. Note to Bouncy: You are living proof that the stereotype of all black people being natural singers in a crock of shit. You can't sing. You ain't Tina. You ain't ever gonna be Tina. You can do your thing for six hundred more years and you will still never be any where near Tina because Tina has natural talent. Rehearsing to death does not create talent. The screeching and straining like a constipated mule ain't cuttin it. ***Creepin back out.***

[baileydash]

I think so much undeserved attention is paid to Beyonce because she works so damned hard to get it. I mean, her daddy taught her well. Work yourself to exhaustion, throw your weight around and call in every favor you have and you'll go far.

Also, I think that by overpraising someone so high profile, music critics can pretend that they really care about Beyonce's brand of music.

Let's face it, most critics live only to write about the next Cold Play.

[yournamehere]

Also, I think that by overpraising someone so high profile, music critics can pretend that they really care about Beyonce's brand of music.

What's the benefit for showing a false care about Beyonce's brand of music? Social relevancy? Money? If they only really care about the next Coldplay, they can hang out on the indie scene.

[baileydash]

Yes, but unfortunately, they can't totally avoid Beyonce. And I do think many music critics care about being seen as socially relevant. If not, what's the point?

Over the years I've read a few thoughtful and pretty angry indictments by women and minority critics of the mostly white male critical fraternity. These guys are accused of being far to insular and - surprise, surprise - of caring little about music made by anyone other that people like themselves, white males.

Heck, I've seen some "poor white males" even call out themselves for being too provincial.

When EW had their critics give lists of their favorite music acts, they sorta apologized for having lists that were far more concentrated on young white male bands than they'd expected them to be.

So based on those folks who actually care that this kind of thing happens, too much praise IS heaped on someone like Beyonce in order to prove that the so-called frat boys actually know that there is something outside their narrow little world.

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Has Beyonce compared herself to Tina Turner? Or does the comparison come about because she's black and has big hair?

Every singer today gets compared to someone from the past and Beyonce is sometimes compared to Tina or Diana Ross. I don't think either idea is really pushed the way, say Britney/Madonna was. Of course, Beyonce and Tina performed together at the Grammys a couple years back which probably helped that particular comparison along.

It really blows my mind that people would say that Beyonce can't sing. Is it because her voice isn't as good as singers like Etta James and Tina Turner? Because I think there is wide spectrum of vocal ability between 'Etta James' and 'Can't sing'. I mean, I can't sing. This person? Can sing.

[FotoStoreSheila]

It's not that she can't sing. The tone of her voice when she sings a ballad is just really annoying after the first couple of bars.

I couldn't make it past 'and life is like a song' in the clip posted above. Like nails on a chalkboard.

[hal9000]

She says frequently that Tina Turner is her idol whom she tries to emulate.

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Yeah, I think she can sing, but I don't find the tone of her voice to be very pleasant. If I don't find the tone pleasant then it's difficult for me to listen to the type of music she sings (i.e ballads, etc.).