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Jan 24, 2023 11:13:38 GMT -4 scarlet said:

Best Actress noms are an insulting mess. Where Danielle Deadwyler? Where's Viola Davis? Two noms that have no business being there and Michelle Williams belongs in supporting. Unbelievable.

If they give it to Cate Blanchett over Michelle Yeoh, I'm going to riot.

In happier news, Angela Bassett finally got a second nomination and Stephanie Hsu got her first.

[famvir]

Jan 24, 2023 10:47:24 GMT -4 @fitz said:

Delurking briefly to scream! A Record 14 nominations for Irish film!!

Including a historic first for Irish Language film. An Cailín Ciúin / The Quiet Girl.
Fantastic news all around for our film industry.!

Hi fitz! I’m so happy you are lurking or delurking or anything to know you are still around!

See you Oscar night with bells on!

[Ginger]

Although I did not like the movie Blonde, I'm not upset about Ana de Armas being nominated. My nemesis Michelle Williams got a nomination for her annoying and overhyped Marilyn portrayal, and Ana's performance was way better than that. She portrayed someone iconic without coming off like a caricature and I was impressed.

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I'm glad to see Paul Mescal recognized for "Aftersun". I know it's a "small" movie", but I would have loved for it to have had a lot more recognition. If there was a more emotionally resonant and devastating film last year, I didn't see it.

[cremetangerine82]

CAUTION: Loooooong Post.

Complete 2023 Oscar nominations.

Can I just relish in the joy that Tom Cruise didn't get an Oscar nomination for Best Actor? I hate this smug cult member so much, I'm glad he's not getting one. Maybe you shouldn't have given away those Golden Globes, Tommy.

I'm understand Viola Davis' lack of a Best Actress nomination, but the controversy over the lack of mentioning the slave trade participation of the Dahomey tanked its Oscar chances, especially after #BoycottWomanKing Twitter trend. After last year, I understand the AMPAS wanting less backlash.

I'm SO glad for Michelle Yeoh's nomination and I'm fully in Yeoh corner not just because she'll be only the second woman of color to win since Halle Berry's in 2002!, but how many role were within her roles. I'm glad Blonde got one for Ana de Armas AND she didn't receive a Razzie nomination for Worst Actress; that movie wasso cruel to both Ana and Norma Jeane/Marilyn Monroe and she gave her all.

For Best Actor, I hope Austin Butler doesn't win; I'm sick of biopics that put too much of a shine on a musical artist and sympathy votes just because of Lisa Marie's premature death (R.I.P., lady). I'm just don't like Elvis as a musician (another white musician who benefited from a racist country and music industry) and as a person (hypocrite and ephebophile). I'm in the corner for Colin Farrell (The Banshees of Inisherin) or Brendan Fraser (The Whale).

I'm so happy for Stephanie Hsu (Everything Everywhere All at Once) and I hope she wins. I'm incredibly excited for Brian Tyree Henry (Causeway) and I hope he wins.

Germany's is a definite lock for Best International Feature Film. I dislike remakes of classics, but I'll definitely watch this one (like Spielberg's West Side Story).

I heartily support Everything Everywhere All at Once for Best Picture and Best Director(s) Daniel Kwan and Daniel Scheinert for the same.

*sigh*

The absolute gall for this Oscars to not have a single director who's a woman is absolutely appalling. Somehow, direction is still considered “a man’s job” in Hollywood. I guess since Jane Campion won last year (the only woman to be nominated twice) was enough and they didn’t have to worry about nominating any terrific women this year (Chinonye Chukwu, Maria Schrader, Charlotte Wells, etc.)

I’m so upset that 7 women who are directors have had 8 nominations in 95 years. I’m not casting any shade on Martin Scorsese‘s or Steven Spielberg‘s immense talents (they are on my Top 5 of Best Directors), but they have 18 nominations amongst the two of them. Talented directors who are women don’t even have *half* of that. At this point, it's past time to expand the directors list up to 10, like the AMPAS does with the Best Picture nominations.

This is no longer acceptable that we can let it slide that women can’t get a seat at the table when your movies are (or aren’t) nominated for Best Picture (sorry, Sarah Polley)!

Still, I'll be writing about the ceremony on my Facebook page.

fitz, congrats on your country's historic nominations!

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I think that my favorite story of this year's nominations is Andrea Riseborough getting a best actress nomination for To Leslie when she'd been ignored by the other awards. After hearing about the campaign that other stars had launched to get her recognition, I watched the movie over the weekend and she truly was incredible. I hope in some of coverage getting closer to the event, she gets some mentions for her story. I realize her nomination cost some other actresses a nod - but I think they could have left Michelle Williams out. She overacted her way through The Fablemens.

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I like that, out of the 16 nominations, 14 are first-timers*. I'm glad to see that, especially for Brendan Fraser. AMPAS notoriously shutting out actors known more for comedy like Jim Carrey in The Truman Show and Adam Sandler in Uncut Gems). His comeback makes me absurdly happy.

I love Michelle Williams, but I don't want her to win Best Actress (for category fraud). Michelle Yeoh was amazing in Everything Everywhere All At Once and it's been far too long without a woman of color winning Best Actress.

*Congrats, Angela Bassett!

[scarlet]

Jan 26, 2023 8:17:20 GMT -4 ahah said:

I think that my favorite story of this year's nominations is Andrea Riseborough getting a best actress nomination for To Leslie when she'd been ignored by the other awards. After hearing about the campaign that other stars had launched to get her recognition, I watched the movie over the weekend and she truly was incredible. I hope in some of coverage getting closer to the event, she gets some mentions for her story. I realize her nomination cost some other actresses a nod - but I think they could have left Michelle Williams out. She overacted her way through The Fablemens.

I hate it. Basically, Mary McCormack, the director's wife, sent an email to all her A-list buddies at the last minute and asked for favors. Frances Fisher even had the nerve to add "there's room for everyone" and that Viola Davis and Danielle Deadwyler were locks, so voting for Andrea wouldn't cost a POC a nomination. It's the exact same opposite of a grassroots, organic campaign that the trades are now trying to sell.

[Oxynia]

I'm confused though, and please forgive my naivete. What is the solution that wouldn't result in a quota system or some form of affirmative action?

Saying that "voting for X" is denying a nomination for a POC is unreasonable. If I were a member of AMPAS and I thought that "X" did an amazing job in a role, and a POC candidate in that same category was good but not great in their role, would I not vote for "X" based on merit alone? Would I be expected to vote for the POC candidate out of a general sense of diversity, when in my opinion there was a better performance out there?

I thought the point of the Oscars was merit-based recognition of outstanding acting. Ensuring diversity would instead require some kind of affirmative action in the nomination process, which leads to tokenism and I'm not sure that is a viable solution. I would hate to be a token nominee in any category.

[scarlet]

Mar 6, 2005 21:22:32 GMT -4 Oxynia said:

I thought the point of the Oscars was merit-based recognition of outstanding acting. Ensuring diversity would instead require some kind of affirmative action in the nomination process, which leads to tokenism and I'm not sure that is a viable solution. I would hate to be a token nominee in any category.

Sure, that's fair. But Danielle Deadwyler and Viola Davis weren't just 'good' performances if you go by awards that are thought to be precursors to the Oscars. Both were nominated for SAG, Critics Choice, and Bafta. Viola was also nominated for a Golden Globe. Danielle was nominated for a Indie Spirit Award. Andrea Risebourough wasn't nominated for anything save an Indie. Then, all of a sudden, this non-organic campaign came about. A lot of White A-list actors got behind it. That can be seen as using their White Privilege--whether intentionally or not.