Demi Lovato

[angelaudie]

Demi became famous at a young age and probably hasn’t been told no in years. I don’t think she’s a narcissist. She’s just a spoiled asshole.

Interestingly, in her “Sorry you morons didn’t understand my passion!” video she said something along the lines that giving up drugs was easy for her because she doesn’t need drugs to live. But if she’s still drinking and bonging it up, she really hasn’t really given up drugs. Sounds like she’s still in denial about her addictions.

Demi is also working on a pilot with NBC. It is called “Hungry”. It is a comedy about a group of friends who meet in an eating disorder group and the shenanigans they encounter. But Lenny & Larry cookies are triggering!

[askye]

Interestingly, in her “Sorry you morons didn’t understand my passion!” video she said something along the lines that giving up drugs was easy for her because she doesn’t need drugs to live. But if she’s still drinking and bonging it up, she really hasn’t really given up drugs. Sounds like she’s still in denial about her addictions.

To be fair, it could also be that she was self-medicating with heroin for mental health issues, but she doesn't see drugs themselves as being her biggest problem. Hence why she still consumes alcohol and marijuana.

I have a friend like that. She was struggling with major depression after the loss of a loved one, so she drank. She did go to rehab - and then A.A. - but once she found a good psychiatrist and was given the right prescriptions for her depression, she didn't feel the need to drink to oblivion anymore. She still drinks and smokes marijuana every once in a while, but it's more of an occasional thing, as opposed to something she's doing to numb her despair.

(On the other hand, perhaps you're right, and Demi is just in major denial.)

[petitesuite]

I would be completely astounded if Demi can drink safely. Getting from "my friends have Narcan on hand, and also it was good that they did" to anything like 'normal' is hard, hard, hard and even with how much she's talked about her recovery I don't get the impression she has done all that work. There was a period in my life where I was routinely accessing services related to living with a family member with addiction and I was always told--repeatedly--that alcohol can be particularly bad for people who are addicted to other things because it gives you that invincible feeling. Like where some of us might have two drinks and think "I WILL talk to that guy at the bar" another person might have two drinks and think "I CAN just go back and do heroin one more time." That was a few years ago so maybe that line of thought has been disproven but it always made a lot of sense to me.

[tanyak]

Announced they are non-binary and are changing pronouns.

They still seem exhausting to me.

[canuckcutie]

Yes I’ll guess I can switch from saying she exhausts me to they exhaust me....

I feel like being around they would be really, really draining.

[scarlet]

I find Demi exhausting.

[suekel]

I get the sense that they are just flailing around trying figure out who they are, and I agree it's likely exhausting to be around in person.

[carrier76]

I have never seen anyone more in need of attention...

[mrspickles]

May 19, 2021 9:37:13 GMT -4 tanyak said:

Announced they are non-binary and are changing pronouns.

They still seem exhausting to me.

I am far from an expert, but when announcing that you are non-binary and your preferred pronouns are they/them, does it not diminish your sincerity to repeatedly refer to yourselves as 'I' throughout the announcement?

[hildymatildy]

May 19, 2021 14:09:40 GMT -4 mrspickles said:

May 19, 2021 9:37:13 GMT -4 tanyak said:

Announced they are non-binary and are changing pronouns.

They still seem exhausting to me.

I am far from an expert, but when announcing that you are non-binary and your preferred pronouns are they/them, does it not diminish your sincerity to repeatedly refer to yourselves as 'I' throughout the announcement?

No, because "I" is a gender neutral term so it applies in all cases. Men call themselves I. Women call themselves I. Non-binary people also call themselves, I. Now if they decided to say she was a "system" (which is what people with dissociative people often call themselves), it would be weird if they said I. Otherwise what else are they supposed to use when referring to themselves personally?

That said, given her behaviors, I wonder if she has borderline personality disorder. It is often misdiagnosed as bipolar disorder. Her eating disorders, addictions, quickly changing interests, and need for attention are big red flags.

Yes, I think Demi is exhausting, but let us remember that they are a very ill young person still struggling to fill the empty places inside themselves in an industry that very much panders to those behaviors.