Kate + 8 (Jon Optional)

[FotoStoreSheila]

Lord have mercy, I heard on Wendy Williams that Kate’s getting a dating show. Yikes

[ikmccall]

kate + date? She would need a personality transplant.

[Ladybug]

Apr 12, 2018 18:51:14 GMT -4 FotoStoreSheila said:

Lord have mercy, I heard on Wendy Williams that Kate’s getting a dating show. Yikes

Fear Factor: Dating Kate Edition

[Babycakes]

I hadn't thought about them in eons. Eventually at least one kid will write a tell-all. I'll skim the highlighted portions online somewhere.

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Collin has been absent from family photos for awhile, including photos of the sextuplet's birthday and halloween

I've grown to like Kate over the years, but this thing with Collin is bothering me. Is he simply excluded from photos or he is excluded from their life entirely? The only reasoning for this from Kate's perspective would be that Collin perhaps injured one of his siblings or one of the dogs. But that would not be enough reason to toss him aside so coldly and completely (or so it seems, we can't know what's really happening after all) I wonder if Kate plus 7 ever visit with Collin as a family unit. Perhaps the rift between Hannah and Kate has to do with Hannah's wanting Collin to be more a part of their family life and Kate's resistance to the idea. Even if Collin has behavioral problems severe enough to require him to live in a facility (which I have to assume is approved by the professionals involved in his case), I would think that it would be possible for him to spend a little time at his home occasionally with added adult supervision. If Kate can afford private school tuition for 8 kids, she can afford to employ professional caregivers. I don't know. I hesitate to judge any parent who has a child with a disability because it's so difficult and I can't honestly say I would be able to rise to the occasion and do the right thing (and that is always a question really, what is the right thing?). But it does feel like something is off with all of this. If Kate wants to stay in the public eye as a reality star, she's going to have to eventually explain what's really going on. I don't know if her dating show is still a go, but having a child like Collin to care for is kind of a big deal when you're a single mom asking a stranger to become a part of your life and that of your kids.

[laurenj]

Aug 26, 2018 5:53:34 GMT -4 Babycakes said:

I hadn't thought about them in eons. Eventually at least one kid will write a tell-all. I'll skim the highlighted portions online somewhere.

Oof, I wonder why she ever posts anything at all on Instagram. Such vitriol in the comments. Of course, Jon seems to escape much of the criticism, the comments under his posts seem to fall all over themselves every time he's shown spending any time at all with the kids. I know Kate may have wielded a lot of power in the arrangements, but I can't help but think that if he was such a great father, he would have gotten a better custody deal.

I've grown to like Kate over the years, but this thing with Collin is bothering me. Is he simply excluded from photos or he is excluded from their life entirely? The only reasoning for this from Kate's perspective would be that Collin perhaps injured one of his siblings or one of the dogs. But that would not be enough reason to toss him aside so coldly and completely (or so it seems, we can't know what's really happening after all) I wonder if Kate plus 7 ever visit with Collin as a family unit. Perhaps the rift between Hannah and Kate has to do with Hannah's wanting Collin to be more a part of their family life and Kate's resistance to the idea. Even if Collin has behavioral problems severe enough to require him to live in a facility (which I have to assume is approved by the professionals involved in his case), I would think that it would be possible for him to spend a little time at his home occasionally with added adult supervision. If Kate can afford private school tuition for 8 kids, she can afford to employ professional caregivers. I don't know. I hesitate to judge any parent who has a child with a disability because it's so difficult and I can't honestly say I would be able to rise to the occasion and do the right thing (and that is always a question really, what is the right thing?). But it does feel like something is off with all of this. If Kate wants to stay in the public eye as a reality star, she's going to have to eventually explain what's really going on. I don't know if her dating show is still a go, but having a child like Collin to care for is kind of a big deal when you're a single mom asking a stranger to become a part of your life and that of your kids.

It seems possible that he was posing a threat to the other family members if he has severe behavioral issues. Extreme as it sounds, it's probably best to separate him, living under that kind of a cloud would be detrimental to everyone. IF that's what happening, who knows.

If his problems stem from his parents' relationship and the public implosion, being separated from the family might actually be good for him. Give him a view of the world outside of the messiness of the divorce and what I imagine is a fairly claustrophobic environment of being one of 8 kids and a sextuplet. When you're a kid, your home life feels like the whole world, so when things go bad and you have no control, it feels like the end of the world. Stepping outside of that can give a better perspective. Who knows, he may emerge the healthiest of them all..

[Nysha]

I can't fault her for putting Collin in a residential treatment facility. I wish I had had the option of doing that for my oldest son. He had severe anger and behavior issues and the other children ended up with PTSD from dealing with all the chaos and danger. When he was 15 he assaulted me and his sisters in front of a family friend who called the police. I pressed charges, against my husband's wishes, and he spent the next three years in the custody of the state getting help for his issues. He's now 32 and doing great.

[Babycakes]

Jon seeking custody of Collin.

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I'm trusting that Collin's care will continue to be monitored by outside services that will ensure whomever gets custody cares for him properly. If Jon can pull it off, good for him. It's a big difference between visiting him at a facility and a home visit or two and living together 24/7. I think Kate's past the point of bitterness where she would fight for custody just to spite Jon and she's been pretty tightlipped about Collin, so there's no telling what she's planning. But I'm sure DJ N-DO will continue to keep everyone updated.

[Nysha]

I think he has a pretty good chance since he already has custody of Hannah and from other sources, it sounds like he was more involved when Collin was in care than Kate. Not to slam Kate, since she had 6 other kids to deal with while Jon only had one.