Fifty Shades of Grey

[Witchie]

Feb 16, 2015 1:05:30 GMT -4 @borokat said:

Best 50 Shades review ever.

That was hilarious.

[Deleted]

You know your movie is bad when an audience member seriously considers taking a crap in the corner of the movie theater just to save themselves and the rest of the movie audience.

[angelaudie]

Apparently, it hasn't done well in the audience scoring. I wouldn't be surprised if next weekend's profit is considerably smaller.

[Deleted]

What I don't get about that review is, his wife liked the book but didn't like the movie? I thought they did a pretty good job with the movie, considering the source material was a steaming pile of crap. What did the wife want, a "Holy geez!" from Ana every time Christian put the moves on her? A cartoon representation of the inner goddess tap-dancing? More "laters, baby"?

Also IMO the guy comes off as kind of an ass. Just watch the movie and shut up about it. I'm sure there are plenty of crappy movies your wife has watched for you. Something about him just rubs me the wrong way.

[chonies]

Feb 15, 2015 19:41:06 GMT -4 Hamatron said:

This is an interesting article about the real fetish of 50 Shades of Grey: Unlimited upper-class living.

The Sly Capitalist Seduction Of “Fifty Shades Of Grey”

And yes, they are aware that this is just book one in a series of three, but they don't mention it until the end. It is an interesting read to consider the film and what is says as a stand alone work in terms of class and wealth.

Here's another article in the same vein: Fifty Shades of Gilded Cages: The Luxury Branding of Domestic Abuse

I am personally a tad bit tired of the domestic abuse discussion in the media about the film. I know it is, but this is starting to feel like the high fructose corn syrup debate. I know it's pretty terrible, but I can think for myself, thanks. And yes, I acknowledge that maybe it shouldn't exist in the first place, but that horse is out of the barn, so maybe the conversation should shift a bit.

[Witchie]

chonies, I'm just the opposite. Let's stop pretending these books are anything, but romanticized abuse. The film may have given Ana a voice and he listened when she said no, but that's not what happened in the books. And the fact they released it on Valentine's weekend and marketed it as a romance means the other side of the conversation needs to happen, so that people who haven't read the book and are only going by the movie know the truth about its source material.

[Hamatron]

When I saw it (again, I went on a free press pass) the audience tone changed while watching the movie. People where wooting and giggling at first. By the end, when we were leaving, people looked... rattled. I think with the book, it was so goofy and for some people it was scandalously graphic to read. But seeing it onscreen is different. There's much less room for misinterpretation when he's beating her and she's crying and obviously in physical and emotional pain. You can't skim that chapter here.

From what I am seeing in ONTD posts about audience reactions, that is happening a lot. Shit got to real for casual audiences and fans. It will be interesting to see what happens next weekend at the BO, or how the second movie does. Because I think a lot of people came in expecting something totally different from what they got.

[angelaudie]

Feb 16, 2015 13:08:52 GMT -4 Hamatron said:

When I saw it (again, I went on a free press pass) the audience tone changed while watching the movie. People where wooting and giggling at first. By the end, when we were leaving, people looked... rattled. I think with the book, it was so goofy and for some people it was scandalously graphic to read. But seeing it onscreen is different. There's much less room for misinterpretation when he's beating her and she's crying and obviously in physical and emotional pain. You can't skim that chapter here.

From what I am seeing in ONTD posts about audience reactions, that is happening a lot. Shit got to real for casual audiences and fans. It will be interesting to see what happens next weekend at the BO, or how the second movie does. Because I think a lot of people came in expecting something totally different from what they got.

Yeah, sometimes you have to see something in order take full effect. It's one thing to read about Ana being spanked hard and it hurting. It's quite another to see her crying and him getting off on her pain.

The BDSM community has also been really vocal about how insulting the book and movie is to the community lately. The big things I've been reading is BDSM requires tons of communication, trust, and even affection. One thing that really sticks their goat is Christian ignoring the safe word. Apparently, this is a big no no in the BDSM community and is considered a huge breach of trust.

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Feb 16, 2015 11:29:59 GMT -4 chonies said:

Feb 15, 2015 19:41:06 GMT -4 Hamatron said:

This is an interesting article about the real fetish of 50 Shades of Grey: Unlimited upper-class living.

The Sly Capitalist Seduction Of “Fifty Shades Of Grey”

And yes, they are aware that this is just book one in a series of three, but they don't mention it until the end. It is an interesting read to consider the film and what is says as a stand alone work in terms of class and wealth.

Here's another article in the same vein: Fifty Shades of Gilded Cages: The Luxury Branding of Domestic Abuse

I am personally a tad bit tired of the domestic abuse discussion in the media about the film. I know it is, but this is starting to feel like the high fructose corn syrup debate. I know it's pretty terrible, but I can think for myself, thanks. And yes, I acknowledge that maybe it shouldn't exist in the first place, but that horse is out of the barn, so maybe the conversation should shift a bit.

But what about the young women who can't think for themselves? There are girls who are raised without strong female role models, and there is close to zero education about womens' history and womens' issues in public school. The last thing they need is to see a "heroine" like Anastasia and a "hero" like Christian. If I had read this book when I was in my early 20s, there's no way I would have understood I was reading a tale of abuse, especially when I keep hearing about how hot and romantic it's supposed to be. The massive popularity of 50 Shades means there has to be massive pushback to minimize the cultural damage.

[Deleted]

Honestly I feel like Twilight was more damaging or potentially damaging to young girls than 50 Shades. It had the same troubling themes, and I think it was much more universally embraced as a touching love story. 50 Shades skews to older fans who I think for the most part view it as a scandalous good time rather than a guidebook for how a relationship should be. Of course there will be a few who take it too seriously, but that's true for anything.