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Post by chonies on Jun 19, 2020 14:04:22 GMT -4
In the topic of confederate statues, own argument I’ve seen floated in the last few days is, “well, these men did good things after they came back from the war and freed their slaves.” While my personal biases have me deeply skeptical, is there any actual exemplar of this? Robert E. Lee himself was mediocre at best and still stridently racist when he died less than 5 years after the war. He gets far more credit for surrendering than I think any other General ever has.
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Post by seat6 on Jun 22, 2020 23:23:24 GMT -4
Well, Nathan Bedford Forrest was an early member of the KKK, and served as its first Grand Wizard, so I guess it depends upon how you define “good deeds.”
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Post by chonies on Jun 23, 2020 7:40:27 GMT -4
Ha! Yeah, no, I don't think any apologists really engage with NBF, other than the occasional and deflated, "but he was really sorry that the Klan got so out of hand," or "it was REALLY to protect the southerners from carpetbagging white Yankees."
I think they mean something like, "started a school for the children on the plantation" or "paid actual money to their 'employees' or whatever the basic legal obligation might possibly be." I mean, what's his name in Bristol set up a lot of schools and trusts after making fortunes in slavetrading, but as far as I can tell, that wasn't anything directed toward the descendants of the people he'd sold as chattel.
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Post by famvir on Jun 23, 2020 16:21:25 GMT -4
I was teaching a class in Mississippi decades ago. A state Supreme Court Justice was waxing poetic about how his “daddy” was in the Klan. He said the the klan would keep those “black boys” in line. Those “black boys” needed to take care of their women and children, not be off gambling and drinking and whoring.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2020 19:11:02 GMT -4
Live Aid 35 years ago this weekend I’ve just watched a behind the scenes doc on BBC and now Queens set on YouTube I swear it gets better every time I watch it, Freddie was in his element.
I’ll watch Bowie next and U2.
And Ultravox cos Midge Ure was as important to the whole thing as Geldof was.
Where was I in my mums car been driven back from a holiday in Kerry raging that she decided to leave that day of all days we left after Queen despite all my protests Thank God for car radio tho I commendered the telly as soon as I got home. Donated the last of my holiday money on the Monday at the bank all £12.50 of it.
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Post by mojogirl on Jul 11, 2020 20:16:30 GMT -4
LOL, when I saw something in the history topic, @fitz, I thought it was the Hamilton-Burr duel which happened 216 years ago today!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2020 20:29:55 GMT -4
LOL, when I saw something in the history topic, @fitz , I thought it was the Hamilton-Burr duel which happened 216 years ago today!  Hah! Sorry not sorry., American history or Queen at Live Aid no competition, this weekend will always belong to Live Aid. Tho if you can fix my smart but somehow stupid tv to download the Disney app so I can watch Hamilton that could be a game changer ...... |
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Post by Carolinian on Jul 17, 2020 12:33:07 GMT -4
Let us lift our hands and sing the praises of Willis Carrier, who, on this day in 1902, created the air conditioner. I support a movement to replace all those Confederate soldier statues with ones of Willis Carrier. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2020 12:59:20 GMT -4
Having once been in New Orleans, Washington DC in July humidity aswell as NYC and Boston, I’m very appreciative of Willis Carrier and her very welcomed, by me that summer, creation.
Good to know about who was behind it.
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