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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2018 11:14:41 GMT -4
I loved the Randall/Kate scene, too! Although ... she has NO girlfriends other than those from fat support group? Really?
ETA: HGTV and I have the same wedding anniversary as The Pearsons! Pretty sure neither of us is a saint, though. Darn it.
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Post by Ladybug on Feb 28, 2018 13:27:51 GMT -4
Now that we know how Jack died, I hope they take some time to show us the aftermath. I say that because I want to see more teen Randall and Kate bonding scenes. I also liked Kate and Beth's heart to heart. So often we see people who seem to have it all together, but inside they are struggling.
Mr. Ladybug and I are a lot like Toby and Kate. I have more friends than he does, but we still prefer to spend most of our time together.
Kevin's story line was weak last night. At least call and find out the details about the movie before you freak out and almost drink. One phone call would've reassured him. And does Kevin have an agent or a manager that he can call and say "can you find out what's going on"?
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Post by riosamba on Mar 1, 2018 1:10:14 GMT -4
Jack's death, while perhaps implausible from a physics standpoint, was spot on for his character. I always think it is so interesting how we have certain traits, and they can have two sides. Jack is dedicated to being the hero of his family- the opposite of his father. He fights his addiction to continue being that hero. Yet ultimately it's that heroic drive that kills him. The drive overrides his judgment, and he does this stupid thing (although we all get it), and I think that's why this show works so well. No one is perfect, no one has a perfect relationship (not even Randall and Beth), their emotional lives seem real.
I still hate Toby. Can there be a crossover with Timeless where he dies in the fire instead of Jack? I realize that would be quite a departure for this show, but I'd be willing to suspend all disbelief if we could just get rid of Toby!
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Post by MrsOldManBalls on Mar 1, 2018 8:51:25 GMT -4
ETA: HGTV and I have the same wedding anniversary as The Pearsons! Pretty sure neither of us is a saint, though. Darn it. I am so jealous of you. |
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Post by Ladybug on Mar 1, 2018 13:30:32 GMT -4
Jack's death, while perhaps implausible from a physics standpoint, was spot on for his character. I always think it is so interesting how we have certain traits, and they can have two sides. Jack is dedicated to being the hero of his family- the opposite of his father. He fights his addiction to continue being that hero. Yet ultimately it's that heroic drive that kills him. The drive overrides his judgment, and he does this stupid thing (although we all get it), and I think that's why this show works so well. No one is perfect, no one has a perfect relationship (not even Randall and Beth), their emotional lives seem real. I still hate Toby. Can there be a crossover with Timeless where he dies in the fire instead of Jack? I realize that would be quite a departure for this show, but I'd be willing to suspend all disbelief if we could just get rid of Toby! I love kid and teenage Kate and it makes me sad that she ends up with basically no career and with a boring guy like Toby. Yes, he loves her and treats her reasonably well. But he's boring and annoying. Great analysis of Jack's hero drive. I really want the backstory on his brother, because losing him probably contributed to his drive to take care of everyone he loves. |
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Post by Ladybug on Mar 7, 2018 13:30:12 GMT -4
Double post, but did anyone watch last night? The episode focused on Deja and how she ended up with Randall and Beth as a foster child. It was intercut with scenes of the Pearson's and some of their big moments. What struck me is how much Deja had in common with Jack, living in an abusive/neglectful home with a parent who can't parent, struggling to take care of themselves. There were so many moments when Deja was really alone. At one point she's says "I'm so tired" and it's a heavy statement. This show did a great job of highlighting what many, many kids in foster care live with and it was heartbreaking. "If you find a bed that you feel even a little safe in, don't screw it up." I think they also did a good job of showing her mother's serious limitations as a parent without vilifying her. She loves her child, but she has no idea how to be a parent. You could see all the bad choices she made and how she failed her child over and over.
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Post by riosamba on Mar 8, 2018 15:52:27 GMT -4
Double post, but did anyone watch last night? The episode focused on Deja and how she ended up with Randall and Beth as a foster child. It was intercut with scenes of the Pearson's and some of their big moments. What struck me is how much Deja had in common with Jack, living in an abusive/neglectful home with a parent who can't parent, struggling to take care of themselves. There were so many moments when Deja was really alone. At one point she's says "I'm so tired" and it's a heavy statement. This show did a great job of highlighting what many, many kids in foster care live with and it was heartbreaking. "If you find a bed that you feel even a little safe in, don't screw it up." I think they also did a good job of showing her mother's serious limitations as a parent without vilifying her. She loves her child, but she has no idea how to be a parent. You could see all the bad choices she made and how she failed her child over and over. It was hard to watch. Once again, this show does a great job presenting flawed, real humans. I bawled when Deja's great-grandmother died, you just knew what was coming. I think this was one of the hardest episodes to watch. We know the Pearsons, despite their personal challenges, end up pretty ok, with stable lives and a loving but imperfect family. We don't know how Deja's story will end. I'm glad that they depicted some of the realities of the foster care system. Yes, there are wonderful foster parents out there, but if you look up the statistics of children abused in foster care, it is really depressing. |
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Post by laurenj on Mar 13, 2018 12:09:24 GMT -4
Double post, but did anyone watch last night? The episode focused on Deja and how she ended up with Randall and Beth as a foster child. It was intercut with scenes of the Pearson's and some of their big moments. What struck me is how much Deja had in common with Jack, living in an abusive/neglectful home with a parent who can't parent, struggling to take care of themselves. There were so many moments when Deja was really alone. At one point she's says "I'm so tired" and it's a heavy statement. This show did a great job of highlighting what many, many kids in foster care live with and it was heartbreaking. "If you find a bed that you feel even a little safe in, don't screw it up." I think they also did a good job of showing her mother's serious limitations as a parent without vilifying her. She loves her child, but she has no idea how to be a parent. You could see all the bad choices she made and how she failed her child over and over. It was hard to watch. Once again, this show does a great job presenting flawed, real humans. I bawled when Deja's great-grandmother died, you just knew what was coming. I think this was one of the hardest episodes to watch. We know the Pearsons, despite their personal challenges, end up pretty ok, with stable lives and a loving but imperfect family. We don't know how Deja's story will end. I'm glad that they depicted some of the realities of the foster care system. Yes, there are wonderful foster parents out there, but if you look up the statistics of children abused in foster care, it is really depressing. It was interesting as a standalone episode, but felt very unrelated to the show itself, so I'm curious to see what direction they are planning to go from here out. I FINALLY got into this show about 1 week too late (in other words, just after the big reveal of Jack's death, which I couldn't avoid spoilers on because everyone was talking about it everywhere) and binged the whole series in about a week. I'd tried to watch the first episode once awhile back and it didn't click, but I finally gave it another try, just wished I'd done so a bit earlier. Even with knowing certain specifics of the death (the crock pot, the dog), the reality of the episode still killed me. I had assumed he got trapped in the burning house, but the fact that he got out and they all had that relief that everyone was okay, only to have it ripped away, that was awful. Also, it took me about 5 episodes to stop associating the actor who plays Kevin with this horrible rapist character he played on Cold Case. It's funny how one role can impact the way you see an actor. |
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Post by scarlet on Mar 14, 2018 12:14:32 GMT -4
So glad to see the show ended season 2 on a hopeful note with those glimpses into the future...
Seriously, though, I did mostly enjoy the present day wedding storyline. Kevin and Randall as wedding planners was amusing and Kate looked beautiful and I teared up the exact appropriate amount for a wedding episode.
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Post by Mugsy on Mar 14, 2018 13:44:29 GMT -4
I thought it was funny that they're chasing Kate all morning of her wedding day because she has to get her hair and makeup done, but when she finally gets back (with less than an hour) her hair and makeup look exactly the same (as did the wannabe maid of honour). So why bother spending all that money?
I get that a parent's death will impact the family but egads, I agree with Toby's parents that Kate is needy. Not sure I like the notion that her brothers were supposed to take care of her, in that, as a girl, she needs to be taken care of by boys. And I thought, please don't have her "runaway bride" Toby after dropping the whole "I would never do that".
Wendie Malick is now everybody's mother.
I'm interested in seeing more about Miguel, and how he and Rebecca got together.
That artisanal ice cream sounded terrible. Why mess with something that's already fab?
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