Lori Loughlin

[celerydunk]

She may be hoping for another/better deal to be offered.

[Ginger]

Apr 17, 2019 12:02:49 GMT -4 luminosa said:

Apr 17, 2019 10:57:25 GMT -4 Mutagen said:

Whenever SVU inevitably rips this from the headlines, they're not even going to have to do much work to create the arrogant delusional celebrity mom character. I hope they throw the book at her.

In this episode, I want it to be about Lori only and have Felicity play her. Lol.

I don’t get this not guilty plea. I have no idea how any of this works, but would they do that because they have an ace in their back pocket, ‘get out of jail free card’so to speak? Or are they really that dumb and arrogant?

Apparently, Lori and her husband think they have a good defense. They are going to argue that they didn't know Singer's foundation was fraudulent or that anything they were doing was illegal. They thought their donations were legitimate and were ultimately going to be received by USC. Even though they lied about the crew participation, they thought this was how rich people buy their way into universities and that it wasn't illegal.

After reading the indictment again, it's possible that they really are that stupid. And that they are so dumb and nouveau riche that they didn't know the difference between what they did and what the upper classes do, nor did they bother to do any research on any of it.

I don't know whether any portion of that defense will hold up, or whether it would result in a sentence break if they can get somebody to actually buy it. I don't think it will.

[seat6]

Who is the judge in Lori's case? I wonder where that person went to law school? I wonder if the judge has children who are applying to college?

I'm going to assume that a federal judge (appointed, right?) went to decent schools and has hobnobbed with the rich and/or famous. The judge is not going to be fooled by any of this. The judge may very well be a beneficiary of a legacy admission, but he/she had to do some work at some point. Influencers will not impress the judge, especially if the trial is in Boston.

[mrspickles]

Apr 17, 2019 12:48:19 GMT -4 Ginger said:

Apr 17, 2019 12:02:49 GMT -4 luminosa said:

In this episode, I want it to be about Lori only and have Felicity play her. Lol.

I don’t get this not guilty plea. I have no idea how any of this works, but would they do that because they have an ace in their back pocket, ‘get out of jail free card’so to speak? Or are they really that dumb and arrogant?

Apparently, Lori and her husband think they have a good defense. They are going to argue that they didn't know Singer's foundation was fraudulent or that anything they were doing was illegal. They thought their donations were legitimate and were ultimately going to be received by USC. Even though they lied about the crew participation, they thought this was how rich people buy their way into universities and that it wasn't illegal.

After reading the indictment again, it's possible that they really are that stupid. And that they are so dumb and nouveau riche that they didn't know the difference between what they did and what the upper classes do, nor did they bother to do any research on any of it.

I don't know whether any portion of that defense will hold up, or whether it would result in a sentence break if they can get somebody to actually buy it. I don't think it will.

Didn't a transcript or recording of one of the calls come out where the fixer was discussing the 'donation' and warning her that it wasn't legit, and she said something like 'so all we have to do is say we dontated to blah blah?' That may have been another parent, I don't remember, but the way the conversation played it seemed pretty clear that she knew it was wrong and was getting the story straight ahead of time. Now, I suppose it is possible that they 'didn't know' that tax fraud was a crime, but the way I remember the conversation seems like she knew it was more than just 'breaking the rules' and certainly undercuts the defense that they thought it was a legitimate donation.

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Even if they did not know it was illegal, ignorance of the law is not going to get them far as a defense.

[Ginger]

I really don't think this case is going to come down to how the judge feels about Lori personally. The Federal sentencing system is so proscribed, and federal judges care about the prestige of their positions.

I expect that the judge will be looking at the group of conspirators as a whole and making sure that nobody's sentence is way out of tolerance with the other defendants of comparable background and culpability. I think if the judge wants to be tough, s/he'll be tough on everyone in a uniform way. And if the judge thinks this conspiracy doesn't warrant big prison sentences, that rationale will be applied to everyone and s/he will consistently sentence at the low end of the individual's guideline range.

The problem is, Lori's choices keep increasing the likelihood that she will end up at a much higher guideline range than she would have if she'd seized all of the points deductions that were on offer in the plea bargain.

I'm not really sure that the prosecution has all the evidence they need to prove conspiracy to launder money. I believe knowledge and intent do need to be proven for that one. On the recordings, Singer told Lori that his organization receives and distributes so many donations that the IRS keeps careful track. That would point to the idea that a) Lori thought her money would eventually be disbursed as a charitable donation, and b) she thought this was all above-board by IRS standards.

So I could see her being cleared of that charge. But I think there's solid evidence that she's guilty of the fraud charges because she knowingly lied and had her daughters lie to the USC admissions board. And if she goes to trial and is convicted on those charges, it's likely the judge will not sentence her at the low end of the guidelines. Not out of spite, but as a matter of course since she forced the government to go through the time and expense of a trial.

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Yes, I think she is definitely looking at some jail time. She was either too arrogant or just plain dumb not to plead guilty and then work out some kind of deal.
Off topic, I started one of her Garage Mystery movies (somehow they weren't on my radar before this whole story broke) and it's really enjoyable to watch:) How many are there? I only saw a couple listed on Amazon.

[mojogirl]

Apr 17, 2019 17:28:44 GMT -4 @stargirl said:

Yes, I think she is definitely looking at some jail time. She was either too arrogant or just plain dumb not to plead guilty and then work out some kind of deal.
Off topic, I started one of her Garage Mystery movies (somehow they weren't on my radar before this whole story broke) and it's really enjoyable to watch:) How many are there? I only saw a couple listed on Amazon.

Fifteen that have aired, one that hasn't and the one she was filming when arrested.

[greekone]

Lori Loughlin's Friends Don't Like Her Husband
Looks like Lori may be laying the groundwork to put blame for this mess on her husband. I'm not sure how this this article was published, but I'm assuming some one from her circle leaked it.

[cubanitafresca]

Nothing like throwing your husband under the bus to rehabilitate your image! Honestly, I don't know if I believe it. Her behavior has not been that of a woman shocked or surprised that has happened. I have a hard time believing that her daughters knew and she didn't?