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Post by prisma on Jun 5, 2019 11:34:14 GMT -4
How? She paid to get her kids in on scholarships for a sport they did not participate in. And they faked evidence to show they did for the application process. How can she believe she’s innocent? The delusion and entitlement is mind boggling.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2019 16:42:54 GMT -4
The way things are going, Felicity Huffman would have served her time and gone on with her life/career, while Lori is still waiting to go to trial.
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Post by cubanitafresca on Jun 5, 2019 18:39:16 GMT -4
I would practically sacrifice my first born child to see Felicity get probation and Lori gets slammed with years in prison.
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Post by Ginger on Jun 5, 2019 21:53:08 GMT -4
How? She paid to get her kids in on scholarships for a sport they did not participate in. And they faked evidence to show they did for the application process. How can she believe she’s innocent? Is lying on a college application or to a college admissions board illegal though? Lori thinks it isn't, and I haven't found information to contradict her. It happens quite frequently, just maybe not as blatantly. Bribing a coach might be illegal but Lori made the check out to USC. That right there is a donation. Not her fault a crooked coach pocketed the money. She hired a college admissions consultant to help get her daughters into USC. Not illegal, just something rich people do. She didn't know he was laundering money; she thought he operated a legit charity. The FBI's tapes don't prove otherwise and in fact kind of back her up on that. There seems to be only one witness against her and that is the scam leader. A jury might be willing to consider the fact that he is testifying against her to save his own skin and isn't the most truthful person to begin with. Although I think she's guilty as sin, I don't think she's delusional about her chances of beating the bigger charges. But I think in the end she'll wind up in either the same place as if she'd plea bargained, or a little worse off. And she will have spent a few years of her life to do so. The way things are going, Felicity Huffman would have served her time and gone on with her life/career, while Lori is still waiting to go to trial. Yup. Felicity's sentencing is Sep 13. If she gets 2-4 months, she'll be out around Christmas. Lori's trial is nowhere in sight. |
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Post by mrspickles on Jun 5, 2019 23:35:07 GMT -4
How? She paid to get her kids in on scholarships for a sport they did not participate in. And they faked evidence to show they did for the application process. How can she believe she’s innocent? Is lying on a college application or to a college admissions board illegal though? Lori thinks it isn't, and I haven't found information to contradict her. It happens quite frequently, just maybe not as blatantly. Bribing a coach might be illegal but Lori made the check out to USC. That right there is a donation. Not her fault a crooked coach pocketed the money. She hired a college admissions consultant to help get her daughters into USC. Not illegal, just something rich people do. She didn't know he was laundering money; she thought he operated a legit charity. The FBI's tapes don't prove otherwise and in fact kind of back her up on that. There seems to be only one witness against her and that is the scam leader. A jury might be willing to consider the fact that he is testifying against her to save his own skin and isn't the most truthful person to begin with. Although I think she's guilty as sin, I don't think she's delusional about her chances of beating the bigger charges. But I think in the end she'll wind up in either the same place as if she'd plea bargained, or a little worse off. And she will have spent a few years of her life to do so. The way things are going, Felicity Huffman would have served her time and gone on with her life/career, while Lori is still waiting to go to trial. Yup. Felicity's sentencing is Sep 13. If she gets 2-4 months, she'll be out around Christmas. Lori's trial is nowhere in sight. But wasn't there a surveillence phone call with Lori and the coach discussing the 'donation' and she seemed to think that the ONLY possible problem was if the IRS audited the donation? She was saying something like 'so as long as we say it was a donation' I don't remember the whole thing, but I'm pretty sure that came out early on and it sure sounded like she knew perfectly well that it wasn't really a donation. eta: Here's from Ginger's post on 3/12 in Felicity's thread. This was before Lori earned her own thread. ' Lori Loughlin's section is really something. She and her kid were too damn lazy to figure out how to complete the application to USC so CW-1 had an employee do that for them too.
At one point, after Laughlin and her husband had paid $500k to the fake charity in bribes, CW-1 said the IRS was investigating the organization's finances. And Lori was all, "But USC's not investigating though, right?" and when CW-1 was like, "No, just the IRS" she's all, "Ok, cool."
She paid half a million dollars in phony donations to a fraudulent charity and she wasn't concerned about the IRS getting involved, just about the USC application.
I'm assuming the IRS is eventually going to get involved in this as well. The place was a registered non-profit that certified the bribes as tax-deductible contributions. If the charity reported $500k in donations from Lori Loughlin and her husband, who then *didn't* claim it on their taxes, that would be an even bigger red flag to the IRS than claiming it, right? They pretty much had to claim the charitable donation deduction on their taxes in order to maintain their cover.'Sorry- I wasn't sure how to link back to another post in a different thread by quote...hope I gave enough info to properly credit Ginger and that anyone who wants to can find the original! |
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Post by Witchie on Jun 6, 2019 0:31:35 GMT -4
I enjoyed Garage Sales Mysteries and feel bad for the actors who lost their gigs due to Lori’s actions. I was hoping they’d recast her role (hell, they recast her husband after the 1st episode aired), but it doesn’t look like that’s going to happen. Whoops, thanks--I knew I was getting something wrong. And thanks for validating my taste in cheese! It's pretty appealing, and I like it much more than Kellie Martin as Nancy Grace's Mary Sue Stories, or whatever. (yes, I know Grace's fiance was murdered, but Kellie Martin's entire note is :- [ in every episode)And yes. Like with everyone else affected by the actions of a few, it stinks for the others involved. I feel you on the bolded. I just can’t with her series. |
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Post by Auroranorth on Jun 6, 2019 0:50:07 GMT -4
At least Kellie Martin got into Yale because she was a competent student. Bless her heart, she's not too swift, is she? |
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Post by Ginger on Jun 6, 2019 0:52:56 GMT -4
My mother is pretty upset about Lori Loughlin going to the big house and depriving her of Hallmark entertainment. She does not find Kellie Martin a worthy substitute. Mrspickles, my interpretation of the indictment was different upon re-read. If anyone wants to read it, CNN website has it. I obviously found it fascinating enough to read more than once. Here's part of the IRS conversation: So yeah, they are discussing her saying the right things if the IRS were to ask. But that's not totally out of the ordinary when it comes to charitable foundations. All of the i's need to be dotted and the t's crossed in the right way. He may have told her that officially, there couldn't be any direct quid pro quo tied to a charitable donation. That doesn't really amount to fraud or money laundering though. He indicates that his foundation gets audited by the IRS and this is routine - which implies that his foundation is legit and passes scrutiny with the IRS. He also says "we give away so much money" which means he told Lori that it really was a charitable foundation that disperses donations. |
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Post by cubanitafresca on Jun 6, 2019 11:45:37 GMT -4
I don't know Ginger, your read on that is different than mine. To me that whole conversation screams consciousness of guilt. Particularly that line "So we...we just... so we just have to say we made a donation to your foundation and that's it end of story" That is not the language of someone that actually believed they were making a donation. That's someone concocting a story. Especially when you put it in context:
- your kids neither have the grades nor athletic ability to get into a school
- some guy says he can get your kids in, but you'll have to give him $$
- you take phony pictures "proving" your kids are involved in crew
- he later calls you back to be sure you tell the IRS the correct story and do not say anything regarding the daughters.
You'd have to be a complete idiot not to see that there was something hinky.
I'm sure the case you laid out will be what her lawyers will say. I just don't think it's going to fly. It just flies in the face of logic.
The fact that they pass audits and actually give away money would be exactly what I'd expect from a charity that was operating as a front for that kind of dirty deals.
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Post by mrspickles on Jun 6, 2019 15:49:53 GMT -4
I guess my first question would be whether Lori received a donation acknowledgement letter from the donee organization? The transcript of the conversation does leave some grey area, but this section seems to be pretty clear - they are discussing the fact that she made a donation to secure entrance for her girls using the pretense that they participated in a sport that both parties know the girls didn't participate in.
CW-1 So what I-- what I wa-- I told Moss already and I wanted to make sure that you knew, as well, if they happened to call you, is that nothing has been said about the girls, your donations helping the girls get into USC to do--
LOUGHLIN Okay.
CW-1 --crew even though they didn’t do crew. So nothing like that has been ever mentioned.
So in a way, whether she thought the donation was legit or not, she still knew that the admission was not kosher and that her money was securing their acceptance. That sounds very bribe-y to me.
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