|
|
Post by mojogirl on Jun 10, 2019 14:51:07 GMT -4
Full disclosure: I am an USC alum.
For "why USC?" when you live in LA the two big schools are USC and UCLA. With USC being private, they can accept anybody they want while UCLA would have to follow the state rules. So Lori may have thought that was the safer option.
And even though people joke about USC (and true it's no Ivy League or Stanford), they have worked really hard for the last 30 years to up their academic reputation, and their current acceptance rate is around 14%. (The individual schools are even more selective, Cinema-Television has an acceptance rate around 1%.)
For helicopter parenting, I am friends with a university faculty member (not USC), and I was shocked about 8 years ago when he told me he routinely has parents call his office to complain about their child's grade, or try to bargain for a better one. I would have died if a parent had called one of my professors. But it also woke me up so that starting in middle school, my kids have to go to their teachers themselves with any problems (we will sit and discuss the issue first/what they should say ahead of time.)
The sad part is, Olivia Jade seems to have some moxie, I mean she went and got that influencer rep on her own. Lori should have just let her do her own thing.
|
|
Deleted
Posts: 0
Nov 20, 2024 3:13:40 GMT -4
|
Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2019 15:25:46 GMT -4
My parents didn't even know who my teachers were in college! Or what classes I was taking.
|
|
|
|
Post by Ginger on Jun 10, 2019 15:38:00 GMT -4
Yeah, I think USC has a good reputation, and definitely has much better name value than Arizona State. No amount of bribery would have gotten Lori Loughlin's daughters into Stanford. USC was the best school within their range.
Also, not every school has a crooked athletic coach who will take bribes and commit fraud. USC happened to have one.
My favorite story from Varsity Blues case is the coach who created a fake athletic profile for a basketball recruit. Not only did the kid not play basketball, but he was only 5'5. They had to change that to 6'1.
Some of the parents who pled guilty are now suing the schools they cheated to get their kids into. Their kids have since been expelled and had their credits revoked. The parents are arguing that the kids should be able to take the credits with them to another school since they paid up to $200k in tuition and fees.
|
|
|
|
Post by laurenj on Jun 10, 2019 16:08:59 GMT -4
]He was outraged that some of the daughter's friends were now making fun of her, outraged that he had not been told about this social situation, and outraged that his daughter was not being aggressive enough about repairing her reputation. I listened for an hour while this father discussed each and every one of his daughter's friends by name, had the daughter read out the texts she had received from her friends, and dictated to her how she needed to respond. It was NUTS. Oh, my god. Do you know how my father knew my friends? The blonde girl. The Indian girl. The really short girl. The girl who lives on Hanover. The boy. The other boy. A friend of mine was just telling me the craziest story about another mom, basically their daughters had been friends in elementary school, but friend's daughter had kind of outgrown the friendship and moved on to other friends. She wasn't mean to the girl or anything, they just weren't close anymore. So Other Mom (after attempting to pressure Friend to force her daughter to be BFFs with her kid), arranged a meeting at school with the principal, counselor and both little girls, who were maybe 12 at the time, to "discuss how Friend's daughter could be a best friend to her daughter and maybe they could have a three-way best friendship with Friend's daughter's [actual] best friend." So, several adults ambushed a little girl to try to force a friendship with another kid because the kid's mom wanted it. Crazy on so many levels, and so damaging in a million ways. There's no school on earth that's worth prison time and very few that would be worth a $500k donation/bribe. I'm just baffled that her kids' school status was THAT important to LL. She and her husband have accomplished enough on their own that they should be able to hold court over anyone in a typical community, they're not strictly A-list, but 2 kids going to USC wasn't going to add any giant feather in their caps, so I just really don't see the point. Granted, she clearly never dreamed she'd get caught/that there'd be consequences, but even if she had gotten away with it, it still seems like an awful lot of money and trouble to go to. |
|
|
|
Post by mrspickles on Jun 10, 2019 16:15:26 GMT -4
My parents didn't even know who my teachers were in college! Or what classes I was taking. My dad happened to know my Calc 2 professor - which is part of how I ended up in treatment that summer, since Dad knew what my performance and attendance really were, and was able to correctly extrapolate that to the rest of my classes. Although, slightly in my defense, who schedules a class for 3 on Fridays when the Student Union has live reggae and sells beer? (I know the real question should be 'who signs up for that class, dummy?') |
|
|
|
Post by Babycakes on Jun 10, 2019 16:24:27 GMT -4
A friend of mine was just telling me the craziest story about another mom, basically their daughters had been friends in elementary school, but friend's daughter had kind of outgrown the friendship and moved on to other friends. She wasn't mean to the girl or anything, they just weren't close anymore. So Other Mom (after attempting to pressure Friend to force her daughter to be BFFs with her kid), arranged a meeting at school with the principal, counselor and both little girls, who were maybe 12 at the time, to "discuss how Friend's daughter could be a best friend to her daughter and maybe they could have a three-way best friendship with Friend's daughter's [actual] best friend." So, several adults ambushed a little girl to try to force a friendship with another kid because the kid's mom wanted it. Crazy on so many levels, and so damaging in a million ways. That is the most disturbing thing I've heard in a good long while. The mother of the ambushed child should have excused the children and cursed out every single adult in that situation. She should have reported the counselor and the principal to the school board. What a bunch of freaks and psychos. |
|
|
|
Post by Ginger on Jun 10, 2019 16:30:27 GMT -4
My parents didn't even know who my teachers were in college! Or what classes I was taking. My dad happened to know my Calc 2 professor - which is part of how I ended up in treatment that summer, since Dad knew what my performance and attendance really were, and was able to correctly extrapolate that to the rest of my classes. Although, slightly in my defense, who schedules a class for 3 on Fridays when the Student Union has live reggae and sells beer? (I know the real question should be 'who signs up for that class, dummy?') My nephew has a very narrow window for what he considers an acceptable class time. It's Tuesdays and Thursdays from about noon to 4. At Thanksgiving, he was able to leave town for almost two weeks. I had a lot of high school friends who partied way too much when they got to college and then had to pull back, get their grades up and figure out how to maintain a balance. That was all part of the learning experience. It was a good thing that their parents didn't have a lot of visibility to the process. IMO report cards generally tell enough of the story. |
|
Deleted
Posts: 0
Nov 20, 2024 3:13:40 GMT -4
|
Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2019 16:59:47 GMT -4
A friend of mine was just telling me the craziest story about another mom, basically their daughters had been friends in elementary school, but friend's daughter had kind of outgrown the friendship and moved on to other friends. She wasn't mean to the girl or anything, they just weren't close anymore. So Other Mom (after attempting to pressure Friend to force her daughter to be BFFs with her kid), arranged a meeting at school with the principal, counselor and both little girls, who were maybe 12 at the time, to "discuss how Friend's daughter could be a best friend to her daughter and maybe they could have a three-way best friendship with Friend's daughter's [actual] best friend." So, several adults ambushed a little girl to try to force a friendship with another kid because the kid's mom wanted it. Crazy on so many levels, and so damaging in a million ways. That is the most disturbing thing I've heard in a good long while. The mother of the ambushed child should have excused the children and cursed out every single adult in that situation. She should have reported the counselor and the principal to the school board. What a bunch of freaks and psychos. Co-signed on this. The school should have never enabled a mom who sounds like she has some real issues. |
|
|
|
Post by laurenj on Jun 10, 2019 17:43:11 GMT -4
A friend of mine was just telling me the craziest story about another mom, basically their daughters had been friends in elementary school, but friend's daughter had kind of outgrown the friendship and moved on to other friends. She wasn't mean to the girl or anything, they just weren't close anymore. So Other Mom (after attempting to pressure Friend to force her daughter to be BFFs with her kid), arranged a meeting at school with the principal, counselor and both little girls, who were maybe 12 at the time, to "discuss how Friend's daughter could be a best friend to her daughter and maybe they could have a three-way best friendship with Friend's daughter's [actual] best friend." So, several adults ambushed a little girl to try to force a friendship with another kid because the kid's mom wanted it. Crazy on so many levels, and so damaging in a million ways. That is the most disturbing thing I've heard in a good long while. The mother of the ambushed child should have excused the children and cursed out every single adult in that situation. She should have reported the counselor and the principal to the school board. What a bunch of freaks and psychos. She wasn’t there, they all did this during the school day, the other mom came in especially for it. She only found out when her kid came home upset. There was definitely fallout, but I think the other mom had more connections and skated out of any of it. Totally twisted. |
|
|
|
Post by mrspickles on Jun 10, 2019 18:01:11 GMT -4
I'm so sorry to read that story, laurenj That poor child. I might have 'taken the high road' or something with my oldest, but after what the school did to her and how deeply it hurt her I will NEVER sit back and let something like that go unchallenged again. The principal would hear so much from me that she'd be begging the other mother to come in so we could cage fight. That is so wrong, and that the other mother ambushed a child like that is beyond fucked up. There is no doubt in my mind she knew what she was doing and that's what makes it even sicker. She timed it specifically - like questioning a minor without legal counsel and parent. You just DON'T DO IT. I would be promising to make phone calls to the board, the state and even congressional representatives if I had to. |
|
