ahah
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Post by ahah on Jul 19, 2024 16:05:49 GMT -4
He not only mentioned Corey Comperatore and the two men who were injured - he had Comperatore's fire gear on stage and went over to kiss the helmet. |
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Nov 28, 2024 13:46:12 GMT -4
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2024 17:02:19 GMT -4
I was very against replacing Biden until respected Dems started calling for it. I can’t help but think they have access to information that we don’t have- David Axelrod, the Crooked Media guys and now Obama. If they think that we cannot win with Biden, and can win with someone else, I’m willing to listen.
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Post by ladyboy on Jul 20, 2024 6:27:28 GMT -4
This article from a few days ago says that four Dem candidates outperform Biden against Trump in key states: Sen. Mark Kelly (Ariz.), Maryland Gov. Wes Moore, Pennsylvania Gov. Josh Shapiro and Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer. I think Harris and Newsom would be a disaster because the Republicans have already spent years attacking them. My picks out of these four would be Kelly (former astronaut) and Whitmer (survived kidnap and assassination plot). There was a comment I liked on a recent NY Times article. It read: "Even if we can convince ourselves that Trump will lose the race irrespective of Biden’s performance, we have a responsibility to elect a president capable of doing the job for the next four years. We don’t take grandpa’s car keys because we no longer love grandpa. We do so because the risk of grandpa backing over the neighbor kids as he pulls out of the driveway has become too great. The imperative of winning this election doesn’t excuse us from the responsibility of electing a leader fully capable of doing the job." This is pretty much the boat I am in right now. I don't believe in electing someone of clearly diminished capacity just because it's less work for the party and I don't think you can necessarily draw a ton of parallels between this election and elections of the past when it comes to what it might mean to change horses midstream. I agree with the Times writer who said Harris can't be the candidate, or really anyone with close ties to the current administration. And it can't be someone as controversial right off the bat as Newsom. But I think it might bring a needed jolt of energy to the party and to voters to have an energetic, articulate younger candidate who could really go toe to toe with Trump in debates and just do better all around at making the needed arguments against him. And you know, not allow things to devolve into a competition between who the better golfer is and which one could actually carry his own bag (probably neither of the existing candidates, to be honest). Finally Trump would look like the decrepit one, which he IS, yet in comparison to Biden standing slack jawed at the podium he unfortunately comes across as "vigorous." In the 80s I had a theory that Reagan’s dementia was so bad he didn’t know he was really President, but thought he was playing the role of President in a movie. He got elected twice. I think the President is a figurehead and could be a lettuce and the staff around them is what gets shit done. Yes, it’s better to have a figurehead who inspires, who you believe is leading, but in this election, I would vote for the lettuce over Trump because it’s that important he not return to office. And I would be happy to love in the Lettuce Administration. |
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Post by cubanitafresca on Jul 20, 2024 9:10:37 GMT -4
In the 80s I had a theory that Reagan’s dementia was so bad he didn’t know he was really President, but thought he was playing the role of President in a movie. He got elected twice. I think the President is a figurehead and could be a lettuce and the staff around them is what gets shit done. Yes, it’s better to have a figurehead who inspires, who you believe is leading, but in this election, I would vote for the lettuce over Trump because it’s that important he not return to office. And I would be happy to love in the Lettuce Administration. Biden isn't even close to being a lettuce. Yes, he's slowing down and looks frail. Yes, his speech (which has always been an issue) has gotten worse. I'm sure the amount of attention to every single word he says is not helping his stutter. Even with that horrible debate, look at the transcript - factually the man was on point. Biden knows his policy, he remembers and explains complex issues, historical facts etc. The notion that he's walking around bumping into walls because he's mentally not there is not accurate. Do insiders know something we don't know? Is that possible? Sure. But we should also consider that those people are more worried about their own pocketbooks. We have several huge donors in Hollywood alone who have made public threats not to fund any candidate that doesn't speak out against Biden. Katzenberg and Strickler have been very vocal about refusing to give money even to down ballot candidates. How many others are making threats like this? The Pod Save the world guys have never been big fans of Biden's either. There's also some weirdness with that whole "Pass the Flag" PAC which seems to have connections to Steve Schmidt who is a big scumbag imo. I personally think much of this hysteria against Biden is being engineered by a group of people with too much media power, and more concerns about their pocketbooks. Yes there are some legit concerns. But the fact that those concerns are somehow bigger than the concern about Trump is absolutely illogical to me. |
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cremetangerine82
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Nov 29, 2021 1:38:37 GMT -4
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Post by cremetangerine82 on Jul 20, 2024 9:17:51 GMT -4
He not only mentioned Corey Comperatore and the two men who were injured - he had Comperatore's fire gear on stage and went over to kiss the helmet. Ew, why did he have to do that? Was it like this? I want an arugula administration, ladyboy! |
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millie7
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Post by millie7 on Jul 20, 2024 10:29:21 GMT -4
He not only mentioned Corey Comperatore and the two men who were injured - he had Comperatore's fire gear on stage and went over to kiss the helmet. Ew, why did he have to do that? Was it like this? I want an arugula administration, ladyboy! Maybe I’m off-base, but my mind immediately went to Hitler and the “Blood Flag” from the Beerhall Putsch. |
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cremetangerine82
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Nov 29, 2021 1:38:37 GMT -4
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Post by cremetangerine82 on Jul 20, 2024 10:45:14 GMT -4
Seriously, maybe the media is avoiding mentioning this Trump kissing incident because it's WORSE than not mentioning Corey Comperatore (R.I.P.) at all.
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Post by FiggyPudding on Jul 20, 2024 11:14:21 GMT -4
I personally think much of this hysteria against Biden is being engineered by a group of people with too much media power, and more concerns about their pocketbooks. Yes there are some legit concerns. But the fact that those concerns are somehow bigger than the concern about Trump is absolutely illogical to me. (I snipped for length, please read the original post for useful context.) If that's true, and I don't have a feeling either way, that explains why we're not getting the super secret insider info they have. Or maybe they have terrible insider polling they don't want to release, out of fear of depressing the Dem vote. Makes me wonder why it hasn't leaked, the media seems to have no problem cherry-picking polls that put Biden in a bad light (without letting the public know how small the sample size is nor the ideology of the respondents). Even if polls are useful sometimes, I can't shake the memory of how many times they've been manipulated or misinterpreted. And I think a lot of "undecideds" or "double haters" make snap decisions when they're looking at the ballot. |
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Post by kissandrachablis76 on Jul 20, 2024 11:42:51 GMT -4
The effort to replace Biden is voter disenfranchisement on a major scale orchestrated by monied, privileged elites. This is something the Democrats are supposed to be against.
It is important to note that the monied, privileged elites who are creating chaos that will probably end with Trump back in the White House will be mostly shielded from the horrors of the Trump presidency/Project 2025. They have nothing to lose.
But the voters they are disenfranchising have everything to lose: basic human rights, quality of life, physical safety.
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cremetangerine82
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Post by cremetangerine82 on Jul 20, 2024 12:20:55 GMT -4
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